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Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Almost all of the animations on iOS are about 2x-3x as long as they should be. First off, they look terrible, the slooooooow change from one thing to another. Secondly, they severely impede usability because you have to wait wait wait for 1000ms here, 1000ms there, and another 1000ms there after every action. It's enough to make me want to give up privacy and switch to Android. Soooo pissed at slow animations. 500ms,…

While it isn't annoying enough to make me consider Android, you're right - animation takes precedence over interaction everywhere in iOS. It's most notable when using the 4 finger swipe to switch between apps on an iPad: The device won't register any taps until the bounce animation is done. I may sound dramatic, but all these small delays add up and make the experience less enjoyable, particularly if you're trying to work fast.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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>Conveniently, this should be a trivial fix trivial to fix the bug in the calculator app. not trivial to deploy that fix. this would be a full system update, right?

Yeah, it'd have to be a proper OS update, because it's one of the core apps. But, also conveniently, iOS 11.1 is in beta at the moment. They just released beta 5 today, so it's not like they couldn't slip a fix for this in before the final release if they wanted to. Whether they will or not, well...

Since iOS 10 the system apps have been on the App Store, and as far as I know, they can now be updated that way, too.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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It definitely looks more sort of futuristic, I have to concede that. Too bad we have to actually use these devices instead of just admiring them in the shop. Thank you for advocating mechanical buttons.

In the 70s my family bought a microwave oven. It had one knob with a dial, which you would turn clockwise to the number of minutes. The microwave would immediately start (if closed, of course) and count down. The gradations had a logarithmic scale. If you wanted to stop early, you turned the knob counterclockwise to zero. That interface was genius. These days I sob and cry every time I have to figure out how to use a…

Those are still readily available. I dislike the knob only design (with no time display) since it makes having something in for 15 seconds or w/e harder, but that might just be me.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Another example, which has existed for as long as I have known, is the spinning number selectors on iOS, used in apps such as Clock for setting alarms or selecting times/dates. The new value doesn't register until the animation completes, so if I set my alarm too fast, it doesn't save: Let's say the alarm is set to 09:00 and I change it to 09:30. So I spin the minute field up to 30 and hit Save. If I do it too quickl…

I find the spinner interface is a bit clunky in the first place as well. I haven't found anything as fast to use as the N9-style circle[1]. [1] http://www.nition.co/2014/08/the-nokia-n9-alarm-clock

Android 6+ has something like that: no need to spin there tough, all the numbers are already available for tapping.

A screenshot at the beginning of https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37809848/can-we-use-some...

However IMHO it's a big usability regression from the old time picker widget, which was a number pad to enter the four digits a time is made of. I know the time I want to set and instead of typing it straight away I have to look for numbers on a dial. It takes longer.

Design teams are losing their way. Too much eye candy is making them blind to efficiency, pun intended.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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As soon as I upgraded my 6s to 11, I saw performance seriously degrade. It takes -seconds- to bring up the iMessage editor. My immediate thought was that Apple had liberally sprinkled wait() into the iOS 11 code base so that I'd feel like my ole A9 CPU just wasn't cutting it any more and I'd realize, as they do, it's time to upgrade. Or... maybe they are running every key stroke through the new Azure-enabled Cray com…

My iPhone 7 - the latest iPhone at the time iOS 11 came out, and with the fastest single threaded mobile CPU for some time - can no longer play locally downloaded audio and be used at the same time without stuttering constantly. Everything is broken on iOS 11. Extremely frustrating. I will buy a new phone, but not an iPhone.

I have an iPhone 7 and I do not experience this at all.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Capacitive buttons are a plague, man. Even the cheap new stoves have them now. Monitors and TVs have had them for a while. Cars are going for touch displays. There's a delay, they don't work every time, and you can't feel them out. Are they cheaper? I don't understand the point of them in the cases where they're literally just replacing a real button. The worst is when they don't even indicate clearly where the butto…

They certainly must be cheaper - no mechanical components, just a single wire (instead of two) connecting the pad to the micro-controller. And they are "fancy"/"futuristic". My lab placed fancy touch-screens in the place of the light switches. Now turning the lights on or off takes at least 15 seconds but we get to pretend to be luxurious :(

Switches are usually connected to digital inputs with one wire as well. The other wire is connected to either power or ground. The wire to the microcontroller is either pulled up or down with a resistor to power or ground, respecively.

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This is revisionist drivel. Every year it's always "Apple is dying" as they continue to siphon money from every industry they touch. They are about to push a tonne of users into a higher price point with the iPhone X. The Apple Watch is an unquestionable success. We are on the precipice of seeing an ARM based MacBook based on their incredible work with A-series chips. They are also strategically very well placed with…

Do we even have sales figures for the apple watch. All I see is made up numbers and guesses.

I never noticed anyone anywhere wearing an apple watch.

Not that I spend any time looking at people's wrists, but you'd think if it was a massive success everyone would notice.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Why is there no way on iOS to disable all animations? It isn’t just the calculator, usually when an animation is playing, there’s no input. My phone feels so slow all the time, I hate it.

Reduce Motion helps a bit, but honestly I’d disable all animations that aren’t absolutely non-blocking.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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People are talking about "lag" and performance, as if this was a "the system can't handle it!" issue. This is a misleading description. The actual issue is that some developer at Apple screwed up their animation configuration when implementing the calculator redesign, and nobody tested adding more than two numbers together quickly. Multiple failures, none involving system performance. What's happening is: the operato…

My thoughts exactly.. You are correct
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