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Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by prawn »

sogen wrote: post #2

As the thread says, I can confirm this bug, the answer: 24 :( iOS 11 must be the buggiest piece of s I've ever tried. Stuck animations, apps that take ages to load, widgets not working, more stuck animations, text overlapping everywhere. Related: Flat design was supposed to make things leaner... EDIT: Worst of all, every single operation is wrong: 7+8+9 = 96 4+5+6 = 60

I'm with you. Updated my 6+ and everything is tragically slow. 4-5 seconds just to get the Settings or Messages apps to open. Typing anything is unbearable - every time, the first word capitalises and then botches everything from then on. Basic functions within apps or opening the camera take so long as to render them near-useless.

I have switched off any animations and performance tweaks that I thought might help, but no luck.

If you have a 6, I'd recommend avoiding iOS 11 as much as you can.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by nathancahill »

lzecon wrote: post #134
AVTizzle wrote: post #102

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Just googled, found this... "Some reddit users claim that resetting their settings (Settings --> General ---> Reset --> Reset All Settings) fixed all of the app issues, while others have restored their devices and set it up as new to solve the problem. Others have backed up and restored and had better results." https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/25/ios-11-app-slowdowns-pe...

I did a backup and complete restore. It went from completely unusable to annoyingly usable. Still considering downgrading to 10.3

Signing window has closed on 10.x.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by shakna »

learc83 wrote: post #117
shakna wrote: post #45

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> Are they cheaper? Not generally, by neither are they more expensive generally. However, there's a large section of consumers that see that sort of thing and somehow assume it means the product is of higher quality, or that's what comes up in the marketing meetings I've had to sit through whilst advocating for mechanical switches.

They are definitely cheaper most of the time. They are often just a trace on a PCB. Product designers hate mechanical switches because they are almost always the first thing to wear out. Including a switch robust enough to last as long as the rest of the product is generally too expensive for consumer electronics. Capacitive buttons can be made much better with some kind of instant feedback to replace the tactile fee…

Our supplier delivers capacitive switches at about $80 per thousand, resistive at $75 per thousand, and tactile at $95 per thousand.

However resistive needs fine-tuning, and really shouldn't be used in dusty or hot environments. Which adds design time and shielding costs.

In our internal research, they end up costing about equal. But we are small, so it might change at a larger scale, though I'd expect those differences to shrink.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by threeseed »

adventured wrote: post #67
icelancer wrote: post #18

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>>Or... maybe they are running every key stroke through the new Azure-enabled Cray computers to better predict what I am going to type so that overall, my typing is more efficient and I'm actually spending less time typing... The typing on iOS 11 in all apps is absolutely abysmal. What the hell is going on?

The giant is pulling apart at the seams. It would take an obsessive, aggressive, near manic product personality to stay on top of something that large and keep it running at an extremely high level of quality. Tim Cook isn't that leader (which pretty much everybody understood on day one). Apple is seeing very serious problems across numerous aspects of their business, from product decisions to supply chain.

This is revisionist drivel.

Every year it's always "Apple is dying" as they continue to siphon money from every industry they touch. They are about to push a tonne of users into a higher price point with the iPhone X. The Apple Watch is an unquestionable success. We are on the precipice of seeing an ARM based MacBook based on their incredible work with A-series chips. They are also strategically very well placed with their Health and AR initiatives.

Anyway look forward to your position in a few weeks when iOS 11.1 is released given the betas are looking pretty good.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by sogen »

nurettin wrote: post #93
bowmessage wrote: post #37

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yes it's so broken and if you delete a selected event the app crashes.

This (and more) happens on Windows 10 sticky notes. I wonder if they collaborated.

They must use the same GitHub repo...

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by jljljl »

kalleboo wrote: post #125
Nition wrote: post #111

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I find the spinner interface is a bit clunky in the first place as well. I haven't found anything as fast to use as the N9-style circle[1]. [1] http://www.nition.co/2014/08/the-nokia-n9-alarm-clock

I still find a number pad to be the fastest. Why am I spinning something around and trying to position it right when I just just press three buttons 9-3-0?

For alarms and clock times, my guess is data validation. The app could correct or block invalid time entries (e.g., accidentally hitting 2500), or it could restrict the entry set.

It also means the number will be in the correct format. your example, 930, could mean many things (930 seconds? 9:30am or 9:30 pm?)

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by a012 »

veidr wrote: post #6

"Jony wants you to take time and appreciate the simplicity of the slowly dimming animations. Or we’re just using it wrong." Apple has lots of issues like this, in iOS and macOS, where they choose visual appeal over functionality, or where animation impedes usability. This is a pretty sad bug, though. My (very expensive, "high-end") Japanese induction stove has a similar issue. Its capacitive touch controls take just…

Sounds like the well-known local forum that I used to visit, somehow they implemented anti-DDOS function that prevents you click a link too fast. Like if you open a page then immediately open other page you'll be redirect to warning page that tells you no human can click that fast. So one has to wait about 1 sec. to continue open other link. Fuck their design.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by semi-extrinsic »

stickfigure wrote: post #84
Nition wrote: post #59

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It definitely looks more sort of futuristic, I have to concede that. Too bad we have to actually use these devices instead of just admiring them in the shop. Thank you for advocating mechanical buttons.

In the 70s my family bought a microwave oven. It had one knob with a dial, which you would turn clockwise to the number of minutes. The microwave would immediately start (if closed, of course) and count down. The gradations had a logarithmic scale. If you wanted to stop early, you turned the knob counterclockwise to zero. That interface was genius. These days I sob and cry every time I have to figure out how to use a…

Those are still easy to come by. I was buying one for an 83-year-old relative last christmas, and there was plenty of choice even. We ended up with a Whirlpool model that even dings a physical bell once when it finishes.

As for regular oven tops, we spent some time finding an induction model with physical buttons. It's wonderful and I enjoy using it every day. It's very tactile. Throw a kettle on and slam it to "P" in 30 milliseconds, aah I love it.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by sogen »

Jtsummers wrote: post #140

Given that they managed to break volume control for iPhone 7 users like me (other versions too?), this isn't surprising in the least. Volume control mostly works now (11.0.3). However, half the time now it'll show the volume changing, but the actual audio output will be unchanged (may be an app issue, happens mostly with WhatsApp voice calls, but have had it happen some with the built-in Music app, not as reliably fl…

I'm on 11.1, still sucks

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by always_good »

kemayo wrote: post #53

People are talking about "lag" and performance, as if this was a "the system can't handle it!" issue. This is a misleading description. The actual issue is that some developer at Apple screwed up their animation configuration when implementing the calculator redesign, and nobody tested adding more than two numbers together quickly. Multiple failures, none involving system performance. What's happening is: the operato…

> tap an operand, tap a number, then tap the operand

The numbers are the operands.

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