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New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by foota »

hkmurakami wrote: post #260
isostatic wrote: post #199

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In the UK drunk driving is a big social no-no, however this has led to country pubs really struggling and many going out of business. If uber or some similar easy to use taxi was available where I lived I'd be quite happy to pay to go to them Instead it means more and more people drink at home, rather than out, actually leading to increased alcohol consumption! Automated taxis will make such a change to the fabric of…

I was reading about the history of Paris cafes, and apparently this has contributed to the demise of many cafes there as well (in particular the ones that relied on alcohol sales and didn't adjust to serve good coffee, among other more modern clientele tastes)

Really? But Paris has such fantastic mass transit?

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by Nursie »

isostatic wrote: post #61
QAPereo wrote: post #7

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Did it in London?

In London taxis are classed as public transport - don't have to pay congestion charges, and the legacy expensive cash-only ones can use bus lanes (but not south of the river at this time of night). The upshot of this is its far cheaper to park outside and get a taxi from outside the zone than to drive all the way in, despite not saving on congestion. The reason it didn't used to be as easy was black cabs are an archa…

Black cabs are not cash only, and are in fact required to have a functioning card reader in the passenger compartment.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by pdx6 »

mycodebreaks wrote: post #132
throwawaybbqed wrote: post #103

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I have had the same issue in the past in the Bay area. I finally got a clipper card a few weeks ago (I live in MV typically walk to work). Yesterday, I was in front of a VTA in San Jose trying to get back to MV. The people around were a bit shady, and there was a pretty long wait for the train - of course .. I called an Uber, which cost a few bucks more. Still waiting to use that clipper card.

Yes, clipper card can fix the problem for locals. But, temporary visitors/tourists to the area may not want to get such a card.

The Oyster card in London is the only way to pay. Pay stations can vend cards, but they need to be distributed more for this to work with Clipper.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by pdx6 »

SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #211
mycodebreaks wrote: post #122

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Most public buses have a vending machine type payment system. You can insert bills & coins, but there is no outlet for returning change. So, there is no way drivers can return change.

Which is still stupid, because vending machines have had ways to return change for decades. It's just bad design.

Fare boxes don’t vend change because it is another moving part that can break. Waiting for change creates dwell time multiplied by cash boarding. Agencies can buy fare boxes that give change but this only makes sense on lower ridership systems.

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Post by bdamm »

colechristensen wrote: post #224
jblow wrote: post #188

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The problem is that your car-driving case presumes the driver already wants to go to MV and is bringing his friends and they don’t mind coordinating to make that happen. If you change your thought-experiment to a paid service, good luck being cheaper than CalTrain.

>The problem is that your car-driving case presumes the driver already wants to go to MV and is bringing his friends and they don’t mind coordinating to make that happen. This doesn't really make sense. My original point is that for me personally going alone, it is cheaper to drive than to use public transit. If I bring friends it is _much_ cheaper. At this moment I could take a CalTrain to SF for $33/person or a 4 p…

With self-driving cars, the "driver" won't be quite free. At this point I'm not sure we actually know what the cost of the "driver" of a self-driving car will be. By this I mean, the cost of development, licensing, insuring a self-driving car, and the costs of updating maps, keeping the car on-line, and managing a fleet of self-driving cars.

It may end up being less than a human, but do we actually know that? I'm not sure we do.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by jdavis703 »

yardie wrote: post #43
justboxing wrote: post #31

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> expand routes, increase availability, update their equipment. ... and be faster . The SFMTA in San Francisco , at an average travel speed of 5 miles / hour. Is only slightly faster than brisk walking. Also, from the downtown FiDi out 2 miles in every direction, the Bus has a bus stop at Every block. Yes, every block.

Even biking works if you have bike racks on the bus and light rail. But most buses can only accommodate 1-3 bikes and light rail has no racks onboard at all.

Just get a skateboard or scooter. You can even carry them on in crush conditions, and there's no setup/teardown. I commute 4.2 miles each weekday on a skateboard, and I see a few other's doing so too.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by untog »

smileysteve wrote: post #273
untog wrote: post #247

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Standing for an hour is absolutely not something you can expect of the general population, especially the elderly.

> expect of the general population Reminder that chronic obesity is a leading cost of healthcare in the U.S.

Come on, that chronic obesity is because of bad diet, not because people don't stand on buses.

And I reiterate: what about the elderly? Public transit has to cater to these people, it can't just ignore them like a startup can.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by leereeves »

HillaryBriss wrote: post #296
leroy_masochist wrote: post #256

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This strikes me as a deliberate misunderstanding in service of a snappy counter-comment. Do you honestly believe that the parent meant that nobody drives drunk anymore? In my reading, parent comment is saying that there has been a major shift in default going-out behavior in LA, from driving one's own vehicle home while intoxicated to taking Ubers to/from nightlife locations. Does that sound untrue to you? Sounds tru…

> Do you honestly believe that the parent meant that nobody drives drunk anymore? yep. that was my honest interpretation of the parent comment.

Seems like a reasonable interpretation of:

> In LA, driving drunk was just the way of life, and it was a real problem. Now, I don't know anyone who prefers driving over ridesharing given the option.

anyone

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by cozzyd »

ryan_lane wrote: post #288
cozzyd wrote: post #144

One problem I've noticed is that Uber/Lyft drivers like to use bus stops to pick off or drop off passengers, which obviously slows down buses quite a bit. I wish buses had cameras that could be used to automatically fine those drivers...

The buses have cameras, and drivers get ticketed for it (at ~$250 per ticket). Drivers avoid pulling over in bus lanes unless they are really sure no bus is coming.

Where is this? If some cities have taken this step, that's great.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by [deleted] »

distances wrote: post #112
mycodebreaks wrote: post #98

Transit systems in the US need some payment technology upgrade. On a couple of occasions, I haven't been able to board a bus due to not having exact change. Once, I was with kids & family visiting NYC. We were planning to take a public bus from a suburb to the city. The fare turned out to be $16 for all of us, but I had $11 and some $100 bills. Guess what, I couldn't board the bus as they can't return change. The bus…

Drivers not giving change sounds ridiculous. What's the reasoning behind that? In Europe it doesn't seem to be a problem.

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