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New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by samstave »

abalone wrote: post #107

tl;dr People use ridesharing mostly to go out to eat and drink (62% of trips). Riders are actually more likely to own cars. They don't want to drive when they're going out because they don't want to deal with parking or drive drunk. They don't ride the bus because it's too slow, unreliable or unavailable. If ridesharing didn't exist, two fifths of the time they'd walk, bike or use public transit instead, and a fifth…

It may increase the "total miles traveled" but doesn't it also increase occupancy density in the cars, thus reducing the fuel/pollution consumption?

I'm tired of shitty data coming out of Uber and Lyft: I want to know about fuel consumption and the impact on auto insurance rates/accident frequency.

Given the known population of drivers, what is their average insurance rate, fuel consumption etc vs the general pop whom are driving their own cars/fuel/insurance?

I recall I had a heavy month on city car share where I spent $800 in one month for that service. Fuck that. I cancelled my account after that.

There is extraordinarily valuable data these companies (and insurance companies) have they don't share. The fact that they hoard this data to protect their profits should be criminal as this data should be a Utility...

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by ProAm »

harigov wrote: post #52
ProAm wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In short, there’s no benefit in using busses anymore. Except these rides are still heavily subsidized and are more expensive than the bus at this subsidized rate.

Yeah but they are more convenient and comfortable. Doesn't that say something about current public transit thinking? Some People are willing to pay a little bit more if it is convenient and comfortable.

When the subsidies end, will people be willing to pay $10 +1 for the exact same ride vs public transit?

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by QAPereo »

jahnu wrote: post #25
QAPereo wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did it in London?

Yeah http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-21451245

That’s from 2013... more recently http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/19/is-this-the-end-of-the-roadfor...

https://www.ft.com/content/40774fc6-76b5-11e6-bf48-b372cdb10...

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by Spooky23 »

jdavis703 wrote: post #115
warent wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to mention safe and clean. In bigger cities, public transportation can put you in physical danger and have you walking out smelling worse than Theon Greyjoy

More people die in automobile crashes than from train crashes and crimes in public transit systems.

The statistics don’t really tell that story.

Getting mugged in a station doesn’t typically kill you, and you’re not travelling, so those stats won’t be counted.

If there was an “incidents per mile travelled”, metric for my trip during daylight hours that would be one thing. But there isn’t any such statistic.

It’s almost certainly cheaper, safer, more time efficient and dramatically more convenient to take a car. In my personal, typical case, I live and work in the same city. Drive/bike/bus/walk time is 10/25/45/90 minutes, respectively. Cost if daily commute assuming IRS costs is about 20% more for driving, but with shorter more predictable and more flexible trips.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by ggggvg »

pmichaud wrote: post #110
ng12 wrote: post #6

Gee, it's almost like people only use public transportation when it's reliable, cost-effective, and efficient.

I stopped using the BART recently because it's dangerous. Several people I know personally have been held up at gunpoint on the BART, or in the station. That's not counting the various news reports, like one [1]. I'll go back when it's safe, but not before then. [1]: http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/BART-takeover-robbery-50...

What third-world country do you live in that has such unsafe public transport?

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by erik_seaberg »

walshemj wrote: post #90
didip wrote: post #49

For my everyday commute in SV, Lyft made it possible for me to even use Caltrain. I use Lyft to connect the last mile from/to work, but the bulk of the distance is covered by Caltrain. This combo is the most optimal for me because i get to dodge 101 highway completely. Also, VTA buses are close to useless to me, not only that they are frequently late, but they are too dirty/smelly/full of riff raff, don't take credit…

Is it really such a hard ship to walk a mile?

One mile would add 20 minutes in each direction, to a commute that probably already takes two hours per day. Transit planners assume riders will accept walking 1/4-1/2 mile.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by sprw121 »

thisisit wrote: post #67
tmh79 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is not true

Which part? The cost of rides being subsidized or people eschewing mass transit in favor of these ride sharing apps or was it the insinuation that people are eschewing mass transit because it is cheaper or more convenient for the price? Cost of ride: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/9a3vye/uber-true-... 2nd point is the highlight of the linked article. 3rd point has been made repeatedly in this very thread.

It's been shown many times over that this 59% number is terribly miscalculated.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by ctoth »

I cannot drive. I take Uber to and from work every day using a Uber pass. If my alternative were public transit, a bus to a train to another bus or train depending, it would take me 1.5 hours per trip, for a total of 3 hours a day. I would not work in the corporate world if this were the case. Does this study capture these positive externalities? For blind people, these often-derided services are the difference between a full life where we can participate, and being marginalized outcasts who are constantly late, smelling like the bus, and totally inconvenienced when compared with the guy who can just hop in his car.
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