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Facebook Lies

iain.learmonth.me

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Re: Facebook Lies

#171
I kept getting email messages from Facebook after I deleted my account. They stopped after I lodged a complaint with the Australian Communications and Media Authority. It enforces the Spam Act (2003) which prohibits the sending of unsolicited commercial electronic messages with an Australian link, i.e. if it originates or was commissioned in Australia or originates overseas but was sent to an address accessed in Australia.

Re: Facebook Lies

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If you think that is weird, consider what I have done. I manually went through 1100+ friends on facebook and unfollowed them all because facebook won't show me everything in the activity feed but rather tries to guess what I like best. My activity feed is now perfect because it is pretty much just me.

Yep--that's certainly weirder.

Yup, in an attempt to avoid falling into Facebook's echo chamber I have created a news feed that is funnily enough just my posts. At least this means I don't have any incentive to look at my news feed anymore.

Re: Facebook Lies

#173
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If every email they send has an unsubscribe link and you don't click it, you're kind of losing the reasonable grounds to expect them to stop emailing you. I've done this before, just let myself keep getting emails and hoped they stopped. Then I just clicked all of the unsubscribe links they are legally required to put in every email, and I never got an email again. You don't have to hope for what you want, you can ac…

I understand that's the culture we've established. If a company has your address, it is currently acceptable for them to send you infinite electronic marketing nonsense in an attempt to manipulate you into being a profitable resource for them. My point is that it's not how it normally works with humans. If a person did this, it would be creepy and controlling. But when a group of people does it because it might make…

well to be fair it is how it normally works with humans. If someone has your physical address they can send you as much junk as they want in the mail. It's not really different online.

Re: Facebook Lies

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I don’t see why that isn’t expected. Next time try deactivate it instead of uninstall the app, then there is an option to opt out communication. In your account settings, you can also opt out. I have not received a single email from facebook since then (although I am back on it again).

I did not expect them to ramp up the amount of notification spam 100-fold as I engage with the service less. I've no intention of logging back in to check my notification settings, but when I was using Facebook, I would get a push notification maybe once or twice every couple of days. Now, I get more than a dozen SMS messages a day. I've built notification systems in the past, and in every instance, respecting the fa…

Why can't you just click 'unsubscribe' in the bottom of the email?

If they don't provide the unsubscribe option as a one-click option, mark their emails as spam. It's harsh, but getting flagged for spam when they won't stop spamming you or providing the required one-click opt-out is their problem, not yours.

Re: Facebook Lies

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https://m.facebook.com/help/delete_account states that it will delete your account permanently. Facebook’s current FAQ notes it’ll take about 90 days for your information to be gone from their system.

Just reactivated my 8 year old account and deleted it permanently. Long overdue!

Glad I could help!

Re: Facebook Lies

#176

Even if you've never used Facebook, you have a "shadow" account, it is a well known fact. Every time somebody you know upload their contacts into FB, they link them with your shadow account, or create it if not already there, as a strong possible match. I have started to use Facebook recently as I needed an account for work so decided to explore a bit, my biggest problem with Facebook is that your "feed" is made up o…

The only way is to blur your analytics. Move out of Google/Facebook. Install Ad Nauseam extension to not just block tracking but click on everything in the background. This will ruin the information they gather about you with noise.

https://adnauseam.io/

Re: Facebook Lies

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Who expects anything different, really, from companies like Facebook?

Most people don't even think about the consequences until it's too late. It's a new kind of problem.

Re: Facebook Lies

#178

Even if you've never used Facebook, you have a "shadow" account, it is a well known fact. Every time somebody you know upload their contacts into FB, they link them with your shadow account, or create it if not already there, as a strong possible match. I have started to use Facebook recently as I needed an account for work so decided to explore a bit, my biggest problem with Facebook is that your "feed" is made up o…

You can change the sort to most recent first, but the setting isn't sticky and the next day, it's back to the echo chamber, er, I mean, FB curated content.

When you set it as most recent then it switches to a very short timeline, and, again incomplete (judging from what you see as default).

Indeed, curated content, which is very scary.

Re: Facebook Lies

#179

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If the user didn't opt in to a notification, then by definition, it is unsolicited.

He probably has opted in without noticing. Quick show of hands: How reads all ToS that they agree to?

Whatever the fine-print legalities, if you didn't notice, I don't think it can count as opting in.

Re: Facebook Lies

#180
post #87

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I understand that's the culture we've established. If a company has your address, it is currently acceptable for them to send you infinite electronic marketing nonsense in an attempt to manipulate you into being a profitable resource for them. My point is that it's not how it normally works with humans. If a person did this, it would be creepy and controlling. But when a group of people does it because it might make…

well to be fair it is how it normally works with humans. If someone has your physical address they can send you as much junk as they want in the mail. It's not really different online.

Normal human interaction is not conducted mostly by post.
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