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Re: Facebook Lies

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Post by odammit »

I fell into the timeline where it was so easy to log in with Facebook that I auth’d to almost every site with it.

Now I’ve got the “Facebook handcuffs”.

Stop using Facebook and recreate accounts for everything or keep My account active.

I know FB doesn’t care but I have my own little revolt I’ve staged.

- unfriended everyone and added random people

- swapped out my info (I know they still have it)

- post some bs links and nonsense just to dork with any ML running against my account

I wish more sites added functionality to sever Facebook auth from your account.

Re: Facebook Lies

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Post by Chaebixi »

Evgeny wrote: post #42
bmelton wrote: post #26

I've tried (and failed) to delete my Facebook a couple times in the past, so this most recent go, when I quit using Facebook, I just quit using Facebook -- I uninstalled the apps from my phone, and mapped 'facebook.com' to localhost in my /etc/hosts files. The result was... amusing. Facebook kept emailing me the "Hey, did you see what so and so posted?" emails, knowing full well that I didn't see them. But then, afte…

It is fairly easy to configure Facebook notifications the way you want them to be (for example, I want to know when someone logs into my account, but nothing else). I post on my timeline less than once a month, and receive no notifications. Not to defend Facebook, but notifications are hardly its biggest annoyance.

This is not true. They offer no fine-grained control besides dicking around with dozens of unsubscribe links over several weeks.

For instance, how do you easily configure Facebook to ONLY send you emails when you're invited to an event or someone sends you a Facebook message, but NOT when your friends post random stuff?

Re: Facebook Lies

#113

Post by arc776 »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #73
659087 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And besides, they take nothing that you don't give them. This isn't true, at all. Facebook collects plenty of data that users and non-users don't directly give them.

I think it's important to make a couple of distinctions here. 1. Facebook collects on you when you interact with their systems 2. You can purposefully interact with facebook systems by requesting content from a Facebook registered IP (eg, FB.com, whatsapp, IG, Messenger, comment widget etc...) 3. You can passively interact with facebook systems by accessing a website that posts metadata/telemetry to a Facebook regist…

Those facebook 'like' and 'share' buttons you see on a huge number of websites also interact with their systems.

You don't have to be signed in, nor do you have to actually click them. They record your visit to the site, thus track you all over the web and build shadow profiles with your web visits, even if you don't have a profile.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_like_button#Tracking

Re: Facebook Lies

#114

Post by Chaebixi »

avh02 wrote: post #82
yeukhon wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm that is odd. I get the phone notification because I had thst problem if I didn’t remove the app and if I haven’t been on facebook for more than a day. I think the “user is idle let’s poke the user” is a supposedly a “nice” user engagement to get users back on the system. I hear your concern. I think at this point: * opt out notifications before deactivate your account (go to account settings) * deactivate and opt…

Sounds like you could benefit (to some extent except ignoring certain inboxes) from a custom email domain and enabling catch-all. I use this in order to segregate people(services mainly) sending me emails to different addresses that I don't have to manually create (but can easily block/disable an entire address) The only major issue I've had, with gsuite at least, is not being able to reply from one of the not-actual…

Try Fastmail. If you want to reply you can setup a sending identity with the necessary email address. You don't have to do anything ahead of time.

Re: Facebook Lies

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Post by mariallery »

epicide wrote: post #99
dahart wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but the person above only had an account to stop using because Facebook wouldn't delete it when asked, similar to the OP's post. Reasonable / normal expectation is that notifications should have stopped the first time.

Regardless of account deletion attempts, they knew they had an active account and didn't change any notification settings. They still expected Facebook to magically know to stop sending them notifications. That is weird.

"Regardless of account deletion attempts"? Seriously? First step of account deletion is, that Facebook deactivates the account, therefore, they should also know better to not send notifications. Why would they burden the user with notification settings, when the users wish/intent is clear enough? Spamming them with unwanted notifications is unethical behavior.

Re: Facebook Lies

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Post by Danihan »

tomger wrote: post #11

https://m.facebook.com/help/delete_account states that it will delete your account permanently. Facebook’s current FAQ notes it’ll take about 90 days for your information to be gone from their system.

Just reactivated my 8 year old account and deleted it permanently. Long overdue!

Re: Facebook Lies

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Post by quake »

kirbypineapple wrote: post #107

I've been locked out of my facebook account for almost a year because they didn't believe I legally changed my name to "Captain Hook Pope Mobile". I sent my revised birth certificate, drivers license, everything. No response on the support ticket for 8 whole months...

Wait a second. Don't tell me that you're actually the Captain Hook Pope Mobile

Re: Facebook Lies

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Post by dahart »

epicide wrote: post #99
dahart wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but the person above only had an account to stop using because Facebook wouldn't delete it when asked, similar to the OP's post. Reasonable / normal expectation is that notifications should have stopped the first time.

Regardless of account deletion attempts, they knew they had an active account and didn't change any notification settings. They still expected Facebook to magically know to stop sending them notifications. That is weird.

Yes, you're right, this time they didn't try to delete. I read the comment, I understand what happened.

Why should @bmelton expect Facebook to respect the notification settings after he has evidence they didn't respect the account deletion request multiple times?

It's not weird nor is it magic to expect Facebook to stop the notifications. That's what pretty much all other web sites and services currently do. They may ping you several times, but eventually they will stop. I know because I run a service that does this, and I pay attention to what other services are doing, and I care about what is socially acceptable. Facebook, unlike other services, ramps up their notification schedule when you get quiet, rather than assuming that no contact and no response after multiple attempts means you don't want to use their service.

What Facebook is doing is what's weird here.

Elsewhere in this thread, @wpietri makes a compelling argument that were Facebook a person in your life, the increasing notifications would be considered very annoying and needy. This is the reason it's weird for a company to do the same thing.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15392947

Re: Facebook Lies

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Post by ino »

imustbeevil wrote: post #55
bmelton wrote: post #26

I've tried (and failed) to delete my Facebook a couple times in the past, so this most recent go, when I quit using Facebook, I just quit using Facebook -- I uninstalled the apps from my phone, and mapped 'facebook.com' to localhost in my /etc/hosts files. The result was... amusing. Facebook kept emailing me the "Hey, did you see what so and so posted?" emails, knowing full well that I didn't see them. But then, afte…

This is such a weird thing to think. You can turn off all notifications and they'll never contact you, ever. I stopped using Facebook 6 years ago and haven't gotten a single email / sms from them since then, because I used the settings properly. Yeah, if you just ghost them and never click "update your email settings" at the bottom of every email they send, they'll keep sending them.

they've reset my email settings twice I think
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