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Re: Facebook Lies

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They're probably A/B testing it, and you're the control group.

Or resetting those settings to try to get back some high earning users. Ignoring those they don't profit from.

Or maybe observing country-specific laws and regulations

Re: Facebook Lies

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Anecdote incoming: I've turned off every notification setting possible on my Facebook account. The issue is that every time they add a new notification "feature" it seems like they flip all of them back on again. All as if to say, "Everybody wants a daily/weekly rollup of what happened on Facebook! Subscribe everybody by default!" So I feel the GP's pain, I've taken to marking them as spam as well because I know that…

The growth hacker mentality was cute when FB was a scrappy little startup. Now they're dominant, it's just creepy.

“Growth hacking” is always creepy.

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Sounds like you could benefit (to some extent except ignoring certain inboxes) from a custom email domain and enabling catch-all. I use this in order to segregate people(services mainly) sending me emails to different addresses that I don't have to manually create (but can easily block/disable an entire address) The only major issue I've had, with gsuite at least, is not being able to reply from one of the not-actual…

Try Fastmail. If you want to reply you can setup a sending identity with the necessary email address. You don't have to do anything ahead of time.

Sweet, will check it out, I'm not particularly attached to gsuite

Re: Facebook Lies

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Anecdote incoming: I've turned off every notification setting possible on my Facebook account. The issue is that every time they add a new notification "feature" it seems like they flip all of them back on again. All as if to say, "Everybody wants a daily/weekly rollup of what happened on Facebook! Subscribe everybody by default!" So I feel the GP's pain, I've taken to marking them as spam as well because I know that…

The growth hacker mentality was cute when FB was a scrappy little startup. Now they're dominant, it's just creepy.

> cute when [...] was a scrappy little startup. Now they're dominant, it's just creepy.

Microsoft/Gates also had trouble with this. What is "business hardball" in a startup, can be illegal conduct in an almost-monopoly.

In a kitten, pouncing aggression is cute... in a liger, not so much. For the same behavior, you'd put it down.

Individuals can similarly fail to recognize transitions. "You can't do X." "But I've been doing X for years!" "Yes, but here you have relationship Y, so X is no longer ethical/legal."

Re: Facebook Lies

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If every email they send has an unsubscribe link and you don't click it, you're kind of losing the reasonable grounds to expect them to stop emailing you. I've done this before, just let myself keep getting emails and hoped they stopped. Then I just clicked all of the unsubscribe links they are legally required to put in every email, and I never got an email again. You don't have to hope for what you want, you can ac…

The advice I got was to never click any links in spam email. I think the rationale was three part: 1) Clicking "unsubscribe" confirmed that you received the spam mail, so spammers would activate your email address on their other lists, thereby increasing the amount of spam you received. Otoh, acting like /dev/null increased the chance that spammers culled your address to increase their apparent delivery ratio. 2) Fol…

That applies to spam from an unknown sender, not a bona fide company you have a relationship with. Messages from Facebook about your account are hardly unsolicited. I don't think it's useful to call every email you don't like "spam".

Re: Facebook Lies

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Even if you've never used Facebook, you have a "shadow" account, it is a well known fact. Every time somebody you know upload their contacts into FB, they link them with your shadow account, or create it if not already there, as a strong possible match. I have started to use Facebook recently as I needed an account for work so decided to explore a bit, my biggest problem with Facebook is that your "feed" is made up o…

They also use those means to know your face to scan photos and ask people connected to that contact list to tag you in photos, so they know where you've been, even match them with events.

They can fill your shadow profile with photos, location and time data. It's frightening.

Re: Facebook Lies

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I deleted mine over 10 years ago. My wife (who still uses) said that people still click on the "wish happy birthday" shit for me every year.

Well that shows how much they actually care... Yeah. Direct contact has value.

Re: Facebook Lies

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Regardless of account deletion attempts, they knew they had an active account and didn't change any notification settings. They still expected Facebook to magically know to stop sending them notifications. That is weird.

Yes, you're right, this time they didn't try to delete. I read the comment, I understand what happened. Why should @bmelton expect Facebook to respect the notification settings after he has evidence they didn't respect the account deletion request multiple times? It's not weird nor is it magic to expect Facebook to stop the notifications. That's what pretty much all other web sites and services currently do. They may…

You're just conflating issues here. Nobody disagrees that Facebook is behaving in a scummy way. People simply think it's weird to complain about an endless stream of FB messages when the solution is in plain sight.

Re: Facebook Lies

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post #82

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Sounds like you could benefit (to some extent except ignoring certain inboxes) from a custom email domain and enabling catch-all. I use this in order to segregate people(services mainly) sending me emails to different addresses that I don't have to manually create (but can easily block/disable an entire address) The only major issue I've had, with gsuite at least, is not being able to reply from one of the not-actual…

Try Fastmail. If you want to reply you can setup a sending identity with the necessary email address. You don't have to do anything ahead of time.

I was going to, but looking at the benefit of having the rest of the Google applications and being free, I didn't.

Re: Facebook Lies

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Even if you've never used Facebook, you have a "shadow" account, it is a well known fact. Every time somebody you know upload their contacts into FB, they link them with your shadow account, or create it if not already there, as a strong possible match. I have started to use Facebook recently as I needed an account for work so decided to explore a bit, my biggest problem with Facebook is that your "feed" is made up o…

You can change the sort to most recent first, but the setting isn't sticky and the next day, it's back to the echo chamber, er, I mean, FB curated content.
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