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It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by crispinb »

SubiculumCode wrote: post #253
crispinb wrote: post #147

I tried it again on my notebook having seen the Project Quantum dev edition announcement here. Initially impressed by its speed, I've been using it since (3 days I think?). I've found after a few hours it slows down in two very irritating respects -- scrolling gets very janky and reluctant, and switching tabs takes nearly a second. I suppose this may be due to an extension, but given I only use my notebook for work,…

One suggestion re scrolling. In about:config turn off smooth scrolling. Its for compatability, but most systems work better with it off. The scrolling is much snappier with it off.

Thanks, I'll try that next time if it reoccurs. It's an accumulating problem of some sort, so memory-related presumably. Scrolling is smooth except on the very heaviest pages initially, and gets jankier over time.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by jopsen »

noncoml wrote: post #227
syshum wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you are one of those that "Open Web" == performance only and you look the other way on things like EME, Pocket, and various other things that lower Privacy and betray the very foundation of the "Open Web"

That's as a bit unfair conclusion. I just believe that if Firefox dies then for sure "Open Web" will die. But, yeah, of course I am not happy with Pocket. But it still better than using Chrome.

Curious what is the concern with pocket?

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by JoBrad »

rightos wrote: post #2

I was extremely skeptical of all the changes they were doing - I said it myself 100 times, "they're just building a Chrome clone, they're killing all the features I like in favor of speed". But here I am, running Nightly because holy shit this thing flies. Their work has paid off and they're not even done yet. Webrender is coming, it's not quite stable enough for daily use yet (mostly just graphics glitching and inte…

You're not lying - I just downloaded it, and it is crazy fast. GMail (maybe not the best metric, but an important one for me) loads about twice as fast as in Chrome, and scrolling has no stuttering at all, even on very long pages.

I may actually make the switch.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by koolba »

ricw wrote: post #259
agumonkey wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The amount of work, the extent for how long they've been doing so, all relative to the funding they got.. it's even painful to think about. Chrome shadowed them overnight, had Google infinite wallet and started from scratch. Mozilla became the old slug.. Since then they got Rust off ground, servo yielding good fruits, firefox cool n quiet. Once again kudos.

That is not representative of either the time frame or the resources available to Mozilla. Mozilla has had Hundreds of millions of annual income through their search associations [1]. It’s surprising how they’ve wasted that amount of money to finally in 2017 build a browser that can compete again. This is 9 years after google chrome was released! They have absolutely no excuse for falling this far behind. They squand…

You can't say Mozilla and squander in the same sentence without referencing their phone OS.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by gfodor »

johnbrodie wrote: post #208

I wish I could be as excited as everyone else re: the new Firefox. I've never switched to Chrome, and dealt with some of the previous performance issues. I dealt with these issues because of Vimperator, which as far as I know, won't work with the new version of Firefox. A real bummer.

It's not as sophisticated but I've found Saka Keys to be a suitable replacement:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/saka-key/

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by krapp »

kuschku wrote: post #257
krapp wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Profits are paid to shareholders. Wages are the cost your employer pays to allow you to generate more profit for shareholders. "Profits are unpaid wages" is a nonsensical statement.

"Profits are unpaid wages" is an argument from Karl Marx, which he explains in detail in his book "Das Kapital". You should read it.

I'm aware of it. I still think it's nonsensical.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by Jaepa »

johnbrodie wrote: post #208

I wish I could be as excited as everyone else re: the new Firefox. I've never switched to Chrome, and dealt with some of the previous performance issues. I dealt with these issues because of Vimperator, which as far as I know, won't work with the new version of Firefox. A real bummer.

Good news! It won't (Ok that part sucks). Good news it looks like the Keyboard API has approved.

https://github.com/Koushien/keyboard-shortcut-api

This is one of the last requirements for having a viable product. cmcaine's working on replacement successor:

https://github.com/cmcaine/tridactyl

It still a long ways off, but its possible.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by asadotzler »

JamesFM wrote: post #180
freehunter wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Citation needed. A company known for tracking the ever-loving shit out of everyone across the Internet distributes a best-in-class web browser absolutely for free. If that's not enough, I really hope you're able to hold on to that innocence as you start using the Internet more and more in the future.

Sorry to go off on you because this is a larger issue then your comment but seriously, can we hold this discussion to a higher standard? Prove to me that Google is tracking me through Chrome. Link me to an article with proof of collection. Most of us our developers here, surely we can apply some more rigor to this conversation then “we know Google is doing this because it’s Google”.

If you sign in to Chrome, your history is game for ad matching according to Google https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/165139

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by criddell »

JoBrad wrote: post #273
rightos wrote: post #2

I was extremely skeptical of all the changes they were doing - I said it myself 100 times, "they're just building a Chrome clone, they're killing all the features I like in favor of speed". But here I am, running Nightly because holy shit this thing flies. Their work has paid off and they're not even done yet. Webrender is coming, it's not quite stable enough for daily use yet (mostly just graphics glitching and inte…

You're not lying - I just downloaded it, and it is crazy fast. GMail (maybe not the best metric, but an important one for me) loads about twice as fast as in Chrome, and scrolling has no stuttering at all, even on very long pages. I may actually make the switch.

I was actually thinking about switching to Chrome because of GMail (or rather Inbox). When I open Inbox in Firefox, it can take 20 to 30 seconds for the cursor to stop spinning and I have a 300 Mbps connection.
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