The beta seems pretty good, but after noticing some bugs im reminded again of one of the reasons I quit using Firefox in the first place: Tabs look fucked up on MacOS and some Linux themes, a fix exists, but it's been pushed back to version 58 even though 57 is still in beta. If you don't prioritize user experience in a web browser, then what's the point?
It’s time to give Firefox another chance
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Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance
#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even if "they were just building a Chrome clone", it would still be valuable because of the privacy concerns
Right, and even if its latency is, say 1.5X that of Chrome(1), it's still better, for the same reason. (1) Though I'm sure it's better than that.
That's why I've kept using it despite the slowness, but it's certainly great that now the lag is 0.9x that of Chrome!
Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance
#253I tried it again on my notebook having seen the Project Quantum dev edition announcement here. Initially impressed by its speed, I've been using it since (3 days I think?). I've found after a few hours it slows down in two very irritating respects -- scrolling gets very janky and reluctant, and switching tabs takes nearly a second. I suppose this may be due to an extension, but given I only use my notebook for work,…
One suggestion re scrolling. In about:config turn off smooth scrolling. Its for compatability, but most systems work better with it off. The scrolling is much snappier with it off.
Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance
#254I've been running Nightly for several weeks, and am _so_ impressed. It's fast, stable, and the combo of Containers and CookieAutoDelete (which allows you to set per-container rules) is killing it for me.
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#255Started using Firefox Developer Edition today. Ye gods, it’s incredibly fast. Killer job, FF team!
Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance
#256I was extremely skeptical of all the changes they were doing - I said it myself 100 times, "they're just building a Chrome clone, they're killing all the features I like in favor of speed". But here I am, running Nightly because holy shit this thing flies. Their work has paid off and they're not even done yet. Webrender is coming, it's not quite stable enough for daily use yet (mostly just graphics glitching and inte…
The amount of work, the extent for how long they've been doing so, all relative to the funding they got.. it's even painful to think about. Chrome shadowed them overnight, had Google infinite wallet and started from scratch. Mozilla became the old slug.. Since then they got Rust off ground, servo yielding good fruits, firefox cool n quiet. Once again kudos.
Firefox beta is very nice. My only (big) regret is that APIs that make Vimperator work are getting phased out. I can't live without Vimperator.
Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance
#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
Profits are unpaid wages.
Profits are paid to shareholders. Wages are the cost your employer pays to allow you to generate more profit for shareholders. "Profits are unpaid wages" is a nonsensical statement.
"Profits are unpaid wages" is an argument from Karl Marx, which he explains in detail in his book "Das Kapital". You should read it.
Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance
#258I did, didn't work, went back to Chrome.
It was faster and had a smaller memory footprint than I remember, which was great. It also started stuttering on my macs every ~5 seconds or so. The page would just lock up. Couldn't find a solution. The only hints were to disable graphics acceleration, but those were years old.
On my windows machines it crashed, and crashed hard. Single tab has an issue, the entire browser crashed. Lost work.
No thanks FF, I'll try again in another decade.
Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance
#259I was extremely skeptical of all the changes they were doing - I said it myself 100 times, "they're just building a Chrome clone, they're killing all the features I like in favor of speed". But here I am, running Nightly because holy shit this thing flies. Their work has paid off and they're not even done yet. Webrender is coming, it's not quite stable enough for daily use yet (mostly just graphics glitching and inte…
The amount of work, the extent for how long they've been doing so, all relative to the funding they got.. it's even painful to think about. Chrome shadowed them overnight, had Google infinite wallet and started from scratch. Mozilla became the old slug.. Since then they got Rust off ground, servo yielding good fruits, firefox cool n quiet. Once again kudos.
That is not representative of either the time frame or the resources available to Mozilla. Mozilla has had Hundreds of millions of annual income through their search associations [1]. It’s surprising how they’ve wasted that amount of money to finally in 2017 build a browser that can compete again. This is 9 years after google chrome was released!
They have absolutely no excuse for falling this far behind. They squandered a lot of money, while neglecting their core business (their web browser).
I still hope they’ll keep it up. I have been a Firefox fan ever since beta 1. Hopefully they can recover their market share loss.
Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance
#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
Profits are paid to shareholders. Wages are the cost your employer pays to allow you to generate more profit for shareholders. "Profits are unpaid wages" is a nonsensical statement.
This is only true if your company operates to maximize shareholder value. If your company exists to serve its employees as its first priority, then your statement is false.
Companies can't exist to serve their employees as a first priority - because companies exist to make a profit.
Even if the owners care more about their employees than about profit, that profit still has to come first. No profit... sooner or later, no company.