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Yes, We Get Wiser with Age

nautil.us

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Re: Yes, We Get Wiser with Age

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> As a british citizen, I had heard nothing about the EU outside of what british media told me. A lot of the journalists in those media where wined and dined courtesy of Brussels, and there are several EU and state sponsored campaigns to promote EU across member states. This is just an example: "The spending is part of a near €3 million war chest this year funding 84 projects across Britain and the EU with the aim to…

So you're complaining about a spend of 10% of €3 million, i.e. 250k GBP? That's peanuts even for a society the size of Nothern Ireland, let alone all of Britain. Please take a look at [0], and take a sample of how much of the misinformation listed there originated in English "newspapers". Then again tell us how you think that 250k GBP is unjustified? [0] http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/

>So you're complaining about a spend of 10% of €3 million, i.e. 250k GBP?

No, I'd be complaining about even $1 spent on brainwashing citizens with state money in favor of a particular politics.

But this $3 million is just the tip of the iceberg. Tons of such programs are under the radar, and even more depend on spending money for other purposes (e.g. BS bureaucratic industry, development and "research" programs that just feed mouths and have them feverishly support EU in return with little or no other benefit for the European citizen).

Re: Yes, We Get Wiser with Age

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I didn't find anything about the story of the lawyer when searching. Could you tell me where to look? The story fits my preconceived notions too well to not question it...

Thank you for forcing me to look for reference. It turns out that I got the story a wrong in pretty much all the details, but - I'd argue - correct in the conclusion. The event did not happen a month or two ago, that was apparently the point at which I heard about it. And it didn't involve Afghani refuges. It involved Syrian refuges, and it happened in 2015. The lawyer, Viktor Banke, raised around 15,000 SEK (slightl…

It's a conversation, not research papers ;-)

Re: Yes, We Get Wiser with Age

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I see your point now, thanks. Still personally think that this makes people more "stiff" and more "false", so to speak, which I personally don't like. Maybe it's a cultural thing (I live in Eastern Europe, am in my mid-30s now).

You wouldn't want to live in a society where everything acted on their emotions only.

Yes, I actually want to live in a society where people are a lot more open when it comes to expressing their emotions and feelings compared to a society which actively tries to supress them and instead rely on other social tools.

That's actually one of the few reasons why I've still not emigrated yet. The few countries which I now find economically stable are generally seen as "cold" when it comes to human interactions and expressing your feelings (Norway, Germany, Netherlands, Sweden) while the few other options which I found a lot more similar to my country (I now live in Romania) have been going through difficult economic times lately (Spain, Italy).

Re: Yes, We Get Wiser with Age

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Can't say I agree.

Some of the most narrow-minded and ignorant people I have encountered have been much older than me.

Age does not necessarily confer wisdom.

I also don't agree with the you must respect your elders adage. Respect to is something you should apply to everyone until they give you a reason to do otherwise, but age in and of itself is not a reason to command respect.

Re: Yes, We Get Wiser with Age

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> Empirical studies have shown that older people are better than younger ones in terms of control over emotion, knowing themselves better, making better decisions that require experience, and having more compassion and empathy towards others. These are the things I include in wisdom. So are things that are components of wisdom that can increase with aging. How does this explain Brexit? https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfro…

Well, it seems the older people were indeed wiser, more compassionate, more empathetic, thus confirming the study. Young people were mainly voting based on self-interest (ie, "I want to be able to work in Lisbon (or wherever) if a good job opens up") whereas old people were voting for the long-term independence and sovereignty of the whole nation--which would help older people the least.

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Re: Yes, We Get Wiser with Age

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> Empirical studies have shown that older people are better than younger ones in terms of control over emotion, knowing themselves better, making better decisions that require experience, and having more compassion and empathy towards others. These are the things I include in wisdom. So are things that are components of wisdom that can increase with aging. How does this explain Brexit? https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfro…

> How does this explain Brexit? You are framing this like Brexit was a mistake. In a few more years I guess you'll understand better. Note: I'm not saying I'd vote leave but at least I'm old enough to see why others would.

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Re: Yes, We Get Wiser with Age

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You wouldn't want to live in a society where everything acted on their emotions only.

Yes, I actually want to live in a society where people are a lot more open when it comes to expressing their emotions and feelings compared to a society which actively tries to supress them and instead rely on other social tools. That's actually one of the few reasons why I've still not emigrated yet. The few countries which I now find economically stable are generally seen as "cold" when it comes to human interactio…

You are missing the point.

If people acted on their emotion (i.e. mostly controlled by our reptile brain) it would be a very violent society and quite frankly unsustainable.

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