What if I am only transiting the country ?
Then you are not immigrant.
U.S. To Collect Social Media Data on All Immigrants Entering Country
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#52As much as I’ve always loved to come to the US and as fascinating as some US conferences are (e.g. StrangeLoop might be my personal fav) – no international attendee or speaker can be expected to put up with this ever expanding amount of bullshit anymore. If the science community or “our industry” really want to encourage and unlock the magic of diversity we need new venues for a whole lot of conferences either in Can…
The law is obviously offensively bad, and I do not support (dual citizen to the US), but I think the bigger problem here is any country can do this now -- and any of them that can get away with doing this will do it. The real solution is get the fuck off facebook.
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#53Off topic but recently given the option of vacationing in the USA or Japan, well easy choice. Do I want to visit a frightening, privacy invading, oppressive airport, or Japan? I went to Japan. I'll do my very best to avoid travel to USA if possible. Strange that this is what USA wants. Trump has put up a wall, even if it is not yet physical.
Doesn’t Japan fingerprint people at immigration ? (And maybe take their picture?)
So like the US?
EDIT: I get that this doesn't make Japan any better - it's still invasive, but it's pretty much the low bar these days, whereas collecting social media accounts is a massive step further.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
It'll happen on a small scale while this is working itself out, certainly, but it is hard to imagine a true defacto or dejure uniform ban on people without social media accounts. The right gets upset over insurance requirements, hard to imagine a real requirement to have a Twitter account.
> The right gets upset over insurance requirements, hard to imagine a real requirement to have a Twitter account. The people who are affected are not voting. EDIT: missed that it affects naturalized citizens too, but see below.
Naturalized citizens vote.
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#55Re: U.S. To Collect Social Media Data on All Immigrants Entering Country
#56As much as I’ve always loved to come to the US and as fascinating as some US conferences are (e.g. StrangeLoop might be my personal fav) – no international attendee or speaker can be expected to put up with this ever expanding amount of bullshit anymore. If the science community or “our industry” really want to encourage and unlock the magic of diversity we need new venues for a whole lot of conferences either in Can…
At this point in time i still wonder why people physically move from one part of the world to another to hear somebody speak. What is wrong with live streaming? (and record, download and re-play)
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
IIRC they had (non mandatory) questions about social media accounts already on the ESTA form last time I flew into NYC in January.
If its not mandatory then whats the problem?
It is becoming mandatory.
It is also being extended to legal aliens and citizens (naturalized - like me)
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#58As much as I’ve always loved to come to the US and as fascinating as some US conferences are (e.g. StrangeLoop might be my personal fav) – no international attendee or speaker can be expected to put up with this ever expanding amount of bullshit anymore. If the science community or “our industry” really want to encourage and unlock the magic of diversity we need new venues for a whole lot of conferences either in Can…
The law is obviously offensively bad, and I do not support (dual citizen to the US), but I think the bigger problem here is any country can do this now -- and any of them that can get away with doing this will do it. The real solution is get the fuck off facebook.
By this logic, when this administration starts discriminating people who are into programming ("they cause cyber terrorism," might be the excuse) we shall all "get the fuck off programming"?
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#59Something to realize here: If you're between 10 and 60 years old, "I don't use social media" will likely not really be an answer at the border. Even a barely-used account will not really be an answer. They're going to be able to say you're probably just hiding your real account. That could factor into denying you entry into a country. If this becomes common with many countries, it could become de facto illegal to kee…
I just finished reading the book The Circle[1] by (Dave Eggers) with my wife, which is about just that, making it illegal not to use social media. Though some of the characters were less intelligent than I am, and thus seemed unbelievable to me (a problem I have with real people too), I recommend the book. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Circle_(Eggers_novel)
Don't watch the movie. I read halfway through the book when the movie came out. I excitedly watched it in film form. But I only ended up disappointed. It turned me off not just from the film but from the book itself.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Erm, did you read the article? Visiting the country != immigration.
It's also implemented for visitors, in fact earlier than this. http://fortune.com/2017/06/01/u-s-border-social-media/
don't forget the classic:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2093796/Emily-Buntin...