I wonder if we'll see a push to expand the definition of "social media" beyond Facebook and Twitter to include private group messaging platforms like SnapChat, Slack, and Hangouts, and forums like Reddit and HN.
U.S. To Collect Social Media Data on All Immigrants Entering Country
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#42Something to realize here: If you're between 10 and 60 years old, "I don't use social media" will likely not really be an answer at the border. Even a barely-used account will not really be an answer. They're going to be able to say you're probably just hiding your real account. That could factor into denying you entry into a country. If this becomes common with many countries, it could become de facto illegal to kee…
Question is what happens if one really does not use social media, at least mainstream playforms such as facebook. I'm guessing I'm not the only one around here with a small social media footprint...
That's what I'm getting at - I don't use public social media and would probably get denied.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
IIRC they had (non mandatory) questions about social media accounts already on the ESTA form last time I flew into NYC in January.
If its not mandatory then whats the problem?
The problem is, as a traveler, I now have to choose between my privacy and reduced chance of getting entry into U.S.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not sure how it could actually go that far. Some people just don't have social media accounts, you can't ban people entry for that. If that does happen, there's no way it's gonna stay legal and the simplest solution is a boycott of social media.
"you can't ban people entry for that." Who said so? Border controls have right to turn non-citizens away on border if they suspect you are lying or not disclosing all information to them.
It'll happen on a small scale while this is working itself out, certainly, but it is hard to imagine a true defacto or dejure uniform ban on people without social media accounts.
The right gets upset over insurance requirements, hard to imagine a real requirement to have a Twitter account.
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#46Something to realize here: If you're between 10 and 60 years old, "I don't use social media" will likely not really be an answer at the border. Even a barely-used account will not really be an answer. They're going to be able to say you're probably just hiding your real account. That could factor into denying you entry into a country. If this becomes common with many countries, it could become de facto illegal to kee…
Question is what happens if one really does not use social media, at least mainstream playforms such as facebook. I'm guessing I'm not the only one around here with a small social media footprint...
Time to set up a startup to fake believable social media traffic, I guess.
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#47Something to realize here: If you're between 10 and 60 years old, "I don't use social media" will likely not really be an answer at the border. Even a barely-used account will not really be an answer. They're going to be able to say you're probably just hiding your real account. That could factor into denying you entry into a country. If this becomes common with many countries, it could become de facto illegal to kee…
I predict there will be services that make a shadow account for you. (They probably already exist).
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#48What if I am only transiting the country ?
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#49Something to realize here: If you're between 10 and 60 years old, "I don't use social media" will likely not really be an answer at the border. Even a barely-used account will not really be an answer. They're going to be able to say you're probably just hiding your real account. That could factor into denying you entry into a country. If this becomes common with many countries, it could become de facto illegal to kee…
Then this is crap. Yes, I have FB, but I _view_ it maybe once per month. I _post_ far less frequently. Twitter? Sure, I follow my local city tweets so I know about things like power outages and when the trees will be cleared after the hurricane.
Some of us just don't need the world to know everything about us all the time.
I'm convinced there's two types of people. Those who draw energy from other people and those of us who get peopled out after a short time and need to be alone for a while to recharge. Being social _exhausts_ me so I would rather my social interaction be in real life not making some privacy invading corporation money.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
"you can't ban people entry for that." Who said so? Border controls have right to turn non-citizens away on border if they suspect you are lying or not disclosing all information to them.
It'll happen on a small scale while this is working itself out, certainly, but it is hard to imagine a true defacto or dejure uniform ban on people without social media accounts. The right gets upset over insurance requirements, hard to imagine a real requirement to have a Twitter account.
> The right gets upset over insurance requirements, hard to imagine a real requirement to have a Twitter account.
The people who are affected are not voting.
EDIT: missed that it affects naturalized citizens too, but see below.