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U.S. To Collect Social Media Data on All Immigrants Entering Country

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Re: U.S. To Collect Social Media Data on All Immigrants Entering Country

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Post by mattferderer »

This is not necessarily a new problem. College students for years have been warned about employers digging through social media. This led to the rise of apps like Snapchat & more privacy controls with who you share your social data with.

I've been asked by public figures & businesses how to help clear their name after being involved in several negative news stories. My advice has always been to generate as many positive news stories and website posts as you can so that your negative ones are buried & hard to find.

I would imagine both of these tactics will continue to increase.

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Post by aaron-lebo »

SerLava wrote: post #7

Something to realize here: If you're between 10 and 60 years old, "I don't use social media" will likely not really be an answer at the border. Even a barely-used account will not really be an answer. They're going to be able to say you're probably just hiding your real account. That could factor into denying you entry into a country. If this becomes common with many countries, it could become de facto illegal to kee…

Not sure how it could actually go that far. Some people just don't have social media accounts, you can't ban people entry for that. If that does happen, there's no way it's gonna stay legal and the simplest solution is a boycott of social media.

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Post by fiokoden »

Off topic but recently given the option of vacationing in the USA or Japan, well easy choice.

Do I want to visit a frightening, privacy invading, oppressive airport, or Japan?

I went to Japan.

I'll do my very best to avoid travel to USA if possible. Strange that this is what USA wants.

Trump has put up a wall, even if it is not yet physical.

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Post by s0ss »

musha68k wrote: post #9

As much as I’ve always loved to come to the US and as fascinating as some US conferences are (e.g. StrangeLoop might be my personal fav) – no international attendee or speaker can be expected to put up with this ever expanding amount of bullshit anymore. If the science community or “our industry” really want to encourage and unlock the magic of diversity we need new venues for a whole lot of conferences either in Can…

Erm, did you read the article? Visiting the country != immigration.

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Post by mosselman »

belorn wrote: post #17

Immigration visa is for those that seek permanent residence, while visitor visas are nonimmigrant visas? Each time I see this news, the distiction isn't made clear if this is intended to be for everyone visiting the country, or part of the process when a person is seeking permanent residence. cr1895: Thanks!

So you find it acceptable for the US government to demand access to everything I have on Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp and Telegram(?), etc just because I am going to live there? That is insane.

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Post by paradite »

s0ss wrote: post #24
musha68k wrote: post #9

As much as I’ve always loved to come to the US and as fascinating as some US conferences are (e.g. StrangeLoop might be my personal fav) – no international attendee or speaker can be expected to put up with this ever expanding amount of bullshit anymore. If the science community or “our industry” really want to encourage and unlock the magic of diversity we need new venues for a whole lot of conferences either in Can…

Erm, did you read the article? Visiting the country != immigration.

It's also implemented for visitors, in fact earlier than this.

http://fortune.com/2017/06/01/u-s-border-social-media/

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Post by k-mcgrady »

s0ss wrote: post #24
musha68k wrote: post #9

As much as I’ve always loved to come to the US and as fascinating as some US conferences are (e.g. StrangeLoop might be my personal fav) – no international attendee or speaker can be expected to put up with this ever expanding amount of bullshit anymore. If the science community or “our industry” really want to encourage and unlock the magic of diversity we need new venues for a whole lot of conferences either in Can…

Erm, did you read the article? Visiting the country != immigration.

It's really only a matter of time. It's already an 'optional extra' on the visa waiver.

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Post by cr1895 »

sverige wrote: post #18
SerLava wrote: post #7

Something to realize here: If you're between 10 and 60 years old, "I don't use social media" will likely not really be an answer at the border. Even a barely-used account will not really be an answer. They're going to be able to say you're probably just hiding your real account. That could factor into denying you entry into a country. If this becomes common with many countries, it could become de facto illegal to kee…

Maybe 50 should be the upper bound. I'm in my fifties and have never had any sort of social media account. Many of my high school and college classmates are similarly situated. None of the major social media platforms were founded before I was in my mid-forties, which is why there was never any incentive to start any accounts. I enjoy getting older. It spares me a lot of drama.

>Maybe 50 should be the upper bound. I'm in my fifties and have never had any sort of social media account.

Are you not posting here?

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Post by SerLava »

aaron-lebo wrote: post #22
SerLava wrote: post #7

Something to realize here: If you're between 10 and 60 years old, "I don't use social media" will likely not really be an answer at the border. Even a barely-used account will not really be an answer. They're going to be able to say you're probably just hiding your real account. That could factor into denying you entry into a country. If this becomes common with many countries, it could become de facto illegal to kee…

Not sure how it could actually go that far. Some people just don't have social media accounts, you can't ban people entry for that. If that does happen, there's no way it's gonna stay legal and the simplest solution is a boycott of social media.

It's very easy to extra-judicially deny entry at the border, without much in the way of recourse. I imagine there would be backlash against it, but it's very likely that for some period of time, travel to, from, and between specific countries will be denied to people who "refuse" to produce a social media account.

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Post by kbart »

aaron-lebo wrote: post #22
SerLava wrote: post #7

Something to realize here: If you're between 10 and 60 years old, "I don't use social media" will likely not really be an answer at the border. Even a barely-used account will not really be an answer. They're going to be able to say you're probably just hiding your real account. That could factor into denying you entry into a country. If this becomes common with many countries, it could become de facto illegal to kee…

Not sure how it could actually go that far. Some people just don't have social media accounts, you can't ban people entry for that. If that does happen, there's no way it's gonna stay legal and the simplest solution is a boycott of social media.

"you can't ban people entry for that."

Who said so? Border controls have right to turn non-citizens away on border if they suspect you are lying or not disclosing all information to them.

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