I love my late 2016 mbp with new keyboard & touchbar that i never use. It's a million times better than the surface pro 4, surface book, dell xps, lenovo, or any other equivalently priced winbox. Granted, I don't game at all or need high performance graphics.
Windows for Linux Nerds
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Re: Windows for Linux Nerds
#312Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not an issue with Linux though, you just have incompetent tech maintenance.
That is a major on-the-desktop constituency, though: company standard builds. If companies struggle to do it, that reflects badly on the system as a solution. There is a difference between something being technically feasible, vs a realised outcome. I have had a shot at building a standard desktop on top of ubuntu. My situation was easier than most in that we only had two desktops to support (a thinkpad and a dell la…
Well yes, it probably isn't such a piece of cake. I was too harsh.
Re: Windows for Linux Nerds
#313Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I am not artist and dont know how to make nice... It does matter how the whole looks to the user and linux was never really good at. It sometimes takes a little bit of work, but it isn't that complicated. Linux is great at it, but you might have to do a little research. An example of how to find that information: https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+make+linux+look+good Example desktops: https://www.quora.com/What…
I haven't said it is complicated. I complained that it takes time (aka "takes a little bit of work"). And most of that work is "try color after color and width size after width size and it still looks ugly while I don't know really why". Specifically, if I knew how to make things look nice, I would likely do different job then tech. And I don't really care about researching tons of schemes and about futuristic artist…
You don't need to try color after color -- just find a theme you like and install it. It's very simple. :)
Make a visit to any Linux user's group, and someone can help set it up.
If you want to experiment with different kinds of windows managers (like xmonad or i3 for keyboard productivity), you have the option. With Windows or Mac, you lose many options.
Linux often has desktop features far before Windows and Mac, for example virtual desktops: Windows got them in version 10, Mac got them in 2007, but Linux had them since the 1990s.
I'm not trying to convince you to change -- just saying that it isn't complicated to make Linux look great, and there are always people available to help.
Re: Windows for Linux Nerds
#314Earlier quoted context omitted.
I keep reading stuff like this about Apple losing sight of what matters to developers...but I don’t really know what the big deal is. Aside from a frustrating lack of RAM on the latest MBP, everything seems to be just as good as it was before to me. And even the RAM issue can be solved for me by just not using too much horribly inefficient (electron) software at the same time.
I want to be able to have a stupidly powerful computer. Like idk 128gb or ram and what not. Why is Timmy Cook telling me I can't.
Because Apple does not make all the components required for MBPs itself and depends on other vendors.
Re: Windows for Linux Nerds
#315I tried WSL a few times but for real world every day development it's just not usable at all. The file mount performance is crippling slow. A Rails app takes 30+ seconds to see changes vs nearly instant on native Linux. If anyone is interested in running Linux on Windows in a way that's suitable for full time development then check out this screencast / blog post: https://nickjanetakis.com/blog/create-an-awesome-linu…
Kinda sad to use old VMware and old Xubuntu...
No need to be sad.
Before I moved to Windows 10 I routinely had 150+ day uptimes. The old VMWare is rock solid and runs really fast.
Having to use an older version of xubuntu does kind of stink, but I'm pretty sure if you really cared you could use 16.04, but just downgrade xfce to use 14.04's version.
It's not something I bothered with because visually I'm happy with the way things look, using custom PPAs are easy and I use Docker for various programming language runtimes and services.
Re: Windows for Linux Nerds
#316Earlier quoted context omitted.
> you will never see MS contributing to Wine will you? This is basically asking Microsoft to open source Windows. > Will we ever see office for linux? They already have Office for macOS, Android, and iOS. They also have SQL Server for Linux and .Net core. "Linux" isn't really a viable desktop operating system compared to the other operating systems mentioned. > Why can't we get a proper POSIX layer for windows (like…
OP said it was about comparability, but MS does not care about compatibility unless it's in their favor, that's the point. > "Linux" isn't really a viable desktop operating system compared to the other operating systems mentioned. Well maybe if office and other applications were available it would be? That's the point. > POSIX is dead. Linux compatibility is far more relevant to modern computing. Uh, what about all t…
> Well maybe if office and other applications were available it would be? That's the point.
Where are all the non-Microsoft applications for Linux? Where is Photoshop? What about the thousands of other software vendors?
> Uh, what about all those people running MacOS? homebrew etc are about running all that nice OSS on MacOS.
Getting Linux software ported to MacOS is and has been non-trivial. A lot of effort went into that and for the longest time Homebrew lagged behind. If you're on MacOS you're lucky it's a popular platform and people put in the effort.
I'm not really sure what you're arguing for here anyway -- why should Microsoft their own flavor of POSIX compatible UNIX (again) over building something compatible directly with the Linux kernel. What advantage is the former?
Re: Windows for Linux Nerds
#317Re: Windows for Linux Nerds
#318I totally agree with his points about how terrible the Windows console is. Scrolling past the current line into blank space makes no sense. Having two identical settings menus (Defaults and Properties) that affect the current terminal vs every terminal makes no sense. Having no color theme support makes no sense. As far as third party terminals go, ConEmu is pretty good but crashes a lot for me. I don't see why I sho…
> I totally agree with her points
FTFY
Re: Windows for Linux Nerds
#319Want to _really_ impress us, Microsoft? Give us a Windows Subsystem for Linux. I chose a maxxed out Dell XPS15 laptop with Windows 10 to replace my 3 year old rMBP with the (foolish) expectation that it could replace my Mac. Apple had lost sight of what mattered to developers, and I was angry. But now, 2 months later, here I continue developing and existing on my old rMBP. Bash in Windows is incredibly slow on some a…
MS Office for Linux. That's all I need, that's all I would miss in my current work environment (in the browser is just not cutting it atm).
> MS Office for Linux
Until they make this (and a native AD client), all the rhetoric around "Microsoft LOVES Linux" is empty marketing. (I understand it would be difficult to port. That's beside my point.)
Re: Windows for Linux Nerds
#320A lot of snarky comments here, but I've been using Ubuntu shell on Win 10 for the past few weeks and it's really fantastic. Way faster than a VM and much more compatible than cygwin or msys.
Launching processes in WSL is a LOT slower compared to a VM tbh. WSL is a magnitude faster than Cygwin on that level, however it is still limited by the Windows process model, even with their pico processes they're an order of magnitude slower.
I have a simple bash script I run from time when new WSL versions come out, to see if that improved. It simply loops doing a silly `echo "foo" | grep "bar"` and increasing a counter until that counter reaches 1000. This 9 line script runs in a bit more than 10 seconds on my i7 laptop. In a Linux VM on that same laptop, that exact same script takes 1 second to run.
Now I absolutely love WSL, it makes things a lot easier in my life, but I have to run some extensive long-running bash scripts from time to time (don't ask), and the minute it takes me to spin up a Vagrant VM lets me finish this in about 15 minutes instead of more than 2 hours.