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Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Post by EvilTerran »

tabletiptop wrote: post #194
blunte wrote: post #116

Want to _really_ impress us, Microsoft? Give us a Windows Subsystem for Linux. I chose a maxxed out Dell XPS15 laptop with Windows 10 to replace my 3 year old rMBP with the (foolish) expectation that it could replace my Mac. Apple had lost sight of what mattered to developers, and I was angry. But now, 2 months later, here I continue developing and existing on my old rMBP. Bash in Windows is incredibly slow on some a…

That's literally what this article was about - a Windows subsystem for Linux. Did you read it before you retorted with like 5 paragraphs? I'm guessing not.

Please don't insinuate that someone hasn't read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Post by isolli »

monkmartinez wrote: post #132
tagurit wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As OP mentioned, he probably doesn't want to turn off his system. This is problem I have with a dual boot system, even with the ability to save state. Unless I absolutely have to, I'd rather keep running macOS's

With the problems I see on the mac forums regarding the new MBP's, I don't think turning off the system is going to be much of an issue. That said, I understand not wanting to restart in order to get work done. However, I am looking at it with the perspective that I will be able to fully focus on the tasks at hand (ala Deep Work by Cal Newport), in a distraction free environment.

What problems specifically? I'm not following closely, so a summary would be nice :)

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Post by ikurei »

ulyssesgrant wrote: post #173
blunte wrote: post #116

Want to _really_ impress us, Microsoft? Give us a Windows Subsystem for Linux. I chose a maxxed out Dell XPS15 laptop with Windows 10 to replace my 3 year old rMBP with the (foolish) expectation that it could replace my Mac. Apple had lost sight of what mattered to developers, and I was angry. But now, 2 months later, here I continue developing and existing on my old rMBP. Bash in Windows is incredibly slow on some a…

Yes! I primarily develop on Linux, but lately have been working on Windows porting. In many ways the WSL has been a massive savior. It makes developing on Windows at least possible for Linux users. But it's sooo slooow. The performance bottlenecks I hit seem to be disk i/o related. Things from path tab completion on the command line, to Vim's YouCompleteMe compiling code in the background, to a plain "git status", ar…

> The performance bottlenecks I hit seem to be disk i/o related.

Would it be possible to mount the folders with the code on RAM? They aren't, usually, very heavy. May be a small-ish 500mb volume on RAM could help? Is this even possible on WSL/Windows?

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Post by teekert »

blunte wrote: post #116

Want to _really_ impress us, Microsoft? Give us a Windows Subsystem for Linux. I chose a maxxed out Dell XPS15 laptop with Windows 10 to replace my 3 year old rMBP with the (foolish) expectation that it could replace my Mac. Apple had lost sight of what mattered to developers, and I was angry. But now, 2 months later, here I continue developing and existing on my old rMBP. Bash in Windows is incredibly slow on some a…

MS Office for Linux. That's all I need, that's all I would miss in my current work environment (in the browser is just not cutting it atm).

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Post by oneweekwonder »

ulyssesgrant wrote: post #173
blunte wrote: post #116

Want to _really_ impress us, Microsoft? Give us a Windows Subsystem for Linux. I chose a maxxed out Dell XPS15 laptop with Windows 10 to replace my 3 year old rMBP with the (foolish) expectation that it could replace my Mac. Apple had lost sight of what mattered to developers, and I was angry. But now, 2 months later, here I continue developing and existing on my old rMBP. Bash in Windows is incredibly slow on some a…

Yes! I primarily develop on Linux, but lately have been working on Windows porting. In many ways the WSL has been a massive savior. It makes developing on Windows at least possible for Linux users. But it's sooo slooow. The performance bottlenecks I hit seem to be disk i/o related. Things from path tab completion on the command line, to Vim's YouCompleteMe compiling code in the background, to a plain "git status", ar…

Tried https://mremoteng.org/ before? IIRC it wraps putty/kitty for ssh. But was the most useful terminal replacement options for me when I was on Microsoft Land.

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Post by JoshMnem »

pjmlp wrote: post #188
JoshMnem wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Linux still sucks shit on the Desktop... Linux distros are ugly and the people making them have no taste. Linux is hard to beat for a fully customizable programming environment. You can easily customize the look of a Linux desktop, but can't with Windows or Mac. Windows and Mac have both taken UI ideas that have been around on Linux for far longer.

I have been working for a few decades and I surely can customize Windows and OS X to the extent that matters to me. Sure I probably cannot do it like I used to do with Slackware and fvwm on a rainy weekend, but I don't want to. I want a full stack developer experience with OS Framework APIs that I know are going to be available everywhere, coupled with a nice IDE and graphical tooling.

Different philosophy. I don't like OSX's animation/style, and I want scriptable, command line tools for development, not GUIs.

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Post by beagle3 »

teekert wrote: post #214
blunte wrote: post #116

Want to _really_ impress us, Microsoft? Give us a Windows Subsystem for Linux. I chose a maxxed out Dell XPS15 laptop with Windows 10 to replace my 3 year old rMBP with the (foolish) expectation that it could replace my Mac. Apple had lost sight of what mattered to developers, and I was angry. But now, 2 months later, here I continue developing and existing on my old rMBP. Bash in Windows is incredibly slow on some a…

MS Office for Linux. That's all I need, that's all I would miss in my current work environment (in the browser is just not cutting it atm).

CrossOver Office was running Word and Excel perfectly last time I used it (admittedly, a few years ago), it likely still is.

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Post by ikurei »

rbanffy wrote: post #197

Correct me if I'm wrong, but WSL looks more like an attempt at stopping developers from moving to Macs in order to get a polished app environment with a Unix-like OS underneath and to keep them in the Windows ecosystem.

Hard to guess the tone, but do you mean that in a negative way?

I think it's fantastic that MS are being forced by Mac to improve their damn OS. Mac being the only option for many people (although I love Linux) was a terrible situation.

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