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Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your device without a passcode

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How is Google selling your data to another company ?

That's literally their business

Google may be using the data for their own benefit but they don't sell it to third parties.

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Also there's a big difference between 1) a company collecting and selling your data to other companies 2) a company giving authorities access to your data for complying with anti-terror laws. I'm not implying i agree with how far governments go to intrude into peoples privacy. Just pointing out that i agree with OP that there's a big difference between for example Googles and Apples stance towards privacy.

How is Google selling your data to another company ?

They, like Facebook, are big enough that they don't need to sell data in order to monetise it. This doesn't make their swirling vortex of personal data extraction less creepy.

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But then you end up with Google. It doesn't matter who builds the hardware, if it runs Google's system. Is Apple good? Probably not. Is it less of a threat to your privacy and freedom than Google? Probably.

This is where I would mention that I'm running Cyanogemod, rooted of course, with Protect My Privacy (PMP) installed. http://www.android.protectmyprivacy.org/ While I really like non-Google Android + PMP in theory, the reality is that this solution is extremely complicated, limiting, error prone, buggy and probably not worth it. So I concede that Apple is the better choice, but nevertheless, persist in my futile effo…

How dies PMP differ from PrivacyGuard? From the description it sounds the same.

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So don't lie about it. "I just entered my duress pass code, the device is now wiped". Can they charge you with destruction of evidence when they have no idea if/what evidence was on the phone?

If you're willing to destroy the data to prevent it being read, why not just wipe the phone before you leave and restore it from an encrypted online backup when you arrive?

Arriving with "empty phone" has also caused refusal of permission to enter in the past.

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That's literally their business

Google may be using the data for their own benefit but they don't sell it to third parties.

Yeah that's like their entire business model. They use it to sell ads, etc but they won't sell their most valuable asset.

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> These changes are coming in conjunction with another privacy-minded feature that will disable Touch ID by pressing the power button five times. Wow, that's really nice. I wish Google was so forward thinking about things like this. I see no reason why a fingerprint authentication should be forced upon someone anymore than a password unlock would be. The only reason this is how it works today is because it's much "ea…

> I see no reason why a fingerprint authentication should be forced upon someone anymore than a password unlock would be. In Canada, there is a difference. A fingerprint is something you have. A password is something you know. Police can compel you to use your fingerprint to unlock the phone. They can't compel you to disclose the password.

Exactly the same in the US: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/05/iphon...

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Correct. You need to own a computer to run computer software.

No, you need to own an Apple computer to install things on your phone. I don't need a computer to install APKs on Android.

No, you don't need an Apple computer to install an IPA anymore than you need a computer to install an APK. Let's stop comparing Apples and Oranges shall we? You need a computer to compile and sign an IPA, the same thing you need to compile and sign an APK.

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The services provided by Gapps that send data to Google (push messaging, aGPS, crash reporting, app installs, safe browsing, etc.) also exist on iOS with exactly the same privacy policies. The only difference is that you can remove or disable them on Android devices if you are paranoid, while no such remedy exists on iPhones. By your standards, privacy is achievable with difficulty on Android and not at all on iOS.

Safe Browsing and Crash Reporting can be turned off with no repercussions. You can turn off location altogether, though I'm not sure if you can turn off aGPS only. That leaves app installs (Android allows side loading) and push messaging (I'm not sure about this one) as the ones that you can't disable on iOS.

But please think twice before turning off safe browsing! Contrary to what some seem to believe, it doesn't send your entire browsing history to Google. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9779990 for an explanation.

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This is the only reason why I moved from Android to iOS even though I enjoy the Android phones and Google Fi more. I wish Google Fi would support iOS devices.

> I wish Google Fi would support iOS devices. I'm curious - how can a carrier support and not support certain networks? Isn't that like saying I wish my ISP supported Linux?

In this case, Fi relies on software in order to switch between different carriers and wifi.

They are not able to implement it to their satisfaction with iOS, so they stick with their own devices.

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No, you need to own an Apple computer to install things on your phone. I don't need a computer to install APKs on Android.

No, you don't need an Apple computer to install an IPA anymore than you need a computer to install an APK. Let's stop comparing Apples and Oranges shall we? You need a computer to compile and sign an IPA, the same thing you need to compile and sign an APK.

> You need a computer to compile and sign an IPA, the same thing you need to compile and sign an APK.

You can compile and sign (and, AFAIK, upload to the Google Play Store) an APK on an Android device, using AIDE and perhaps other dev toolkits. No computer needed.

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