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Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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They do that with amp.

And people scream about it, even though it’s an unambiguously better experience for the user .

That's how a trojan horse works. It has to have an outward reason to invite it in.

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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Coming weeks after headless Chrome is released, wonder if there is a connection.

Not sure what you mean. Google using Chrome headless for crawling? I'm sure their crawling infrastructure was already more than capable.

How else would they detect popups?

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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Google is very concerned about ads that visually block text content. But somehow forcing ads in front of videos on YouTube isn't the same exact thing? Both force an ad to be looked at before granting you access to the content you came for. I don't get the distinction.

I say non-skippable YouTube video ads are more annoying and affect more people. Go punish yourself Google. Pathetic.

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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I work for an e-commerce company. This absolutely brutalized our sales until we made significant changes to our layout. I understand that this instance is seen as a net positive for the end user, but Google should not have the power to force websites to conform to whatever Google decides is the new standard, or become irrelevant. The end user should be deciding what is and isn't worthwhile content, or where to shop,…

As a user, I am deciding to use Google exactly because of features like this and, for example, amp.

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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It doesn't matter, ad blocking is here to stay and expand, and it's a ticking clock on this nonsense. How many HN users ever see an ad at this point?

If some people get it their way and the web becomes like a binary blob, it might become harder to block ads across the board.

That is a terrifying proposition, but it might also be the required impetus for an alternative to the web actually taking off, and eventually, over.

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Google is very concerned about ads that visually block text content. But somehow forcing ads in front of videos on YouTube isn't the same exact thing? Both force an ad to be looked at before granting you access to the content you came for. I don't get the distinction.

Not to defend the ad industry, but I don't think these are equivalent. YouTube ads don't block content so much as they delay it, much like inline ads. The equivalent YouTube ad would be if it started playing and didn't pause the video you're trying to watch.

I'll take a pop up ad over and inline any day at least I know it's not a part of the content and the close button is usually in the same place-ish.

In line ads always confuse the hell out of me especially now that they are getting so camouflaged into the content and content sites have the scroll to next piece of content functionality.

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I am glad to see I am not the only one who gets this. I use IE at work and it is annoying. I have also noticed that Google's Captcha is more annoying than it is on Chrome.

I hope this is not too off-topic, but what features are we missing out on in Chrome that are present in IE?

Some require older versions of ie for old plugins to still function.

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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Google is very concerned about ads that visually block text content. But somehow forcing ads in front of videos on YouTube isn't the same exact thing? Both force an ad to be looked at before granting you access to the content you came for. I don't get the distinction.

Not to defend the ad industry, but I don't think these are equivalent. YouTube ads don't block content so much as they delay it, much like inline ads. The equivalent YouTube ad would be if it started playing and didn't pause the video you're trying to watch.

Here is something that is equivalent, page level ads, which are identical to what Google calls interstitials -https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/6245304?hl=en

How will Google punish themselves? Or will Google just punish the publishers who bothered to follow their repeated recommendations to run page level ads on their site?

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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Not sure what you mean. Google using Chrome headless for crawling? I'm sure their crawling infrastructure was already more than capable.

How else would they detect popups?

I'm sure by now Google wouldn't need Chrome headless to be released for them to have that capability.
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