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Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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This was something from January (2017) and trailed in 2016.

It also covers the adsense product - so using google product can affect your google rank.

HOWEVER there are many many news websites that have not been penalised despite a full range of pop ups, interstitial and screen take over adverts.

Anyone from Google able to explain why there is such a discrepancy?

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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Google is very concerned about ads that visually block text content. But somehow forcing ads in front of videos on YouTube isn't the same exact thing? Both force an ad to be looked at before granting you access to the content you came for. I don't get the distinction.

Does this apply to twitters full-page sign up pop up?

To deal with that, right click on "Inspect element", mouse upwards until the whole popup is selected, and click "Delete Node".

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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Google is very concerned about ads that visually block text content. But somehow forcing ads in front of videos on YouTube isn't the same exact thing? Both force an ad to be looked at before granting you access to the content you came for. I don't get the distinction.

It could have to do with the fact that video and text articles are different mediums.

I'll bite. Visually blocking text vs video. Either requires a click (or long wait) to get to the content. What is different?

In fact, there's often less waiting with overlays on top of text content.

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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Showing something different to GoogleBot than your users is against terms of service, all good until you get caught.

You're not getting "caught", and Google can fuck right off with any "terms of service" that I never agreed to about how I respond when they scrape my site without permission. I know that there are practical concerns here, but Google has done a masterful job of shaping the conversation so that many people think anything not sanctioned by Almighty Google with regard to SEO (let alone actual "blackhat" tactics) is illeg…

It's not illegal, but if you're hiding content from Googlebot because you don't want it to derank that page, once they crawl it with an agent that hides the fact that it's Google, they will then derank your whole website.

So it's not illegal, but if you think you're beating Google by doing it, they're well aware of this workaround and will punish you harder.

If you don't care about ranking, then no biggie. But why would you manipulate your web server like that if you weren't trying to rank.

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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Not to defend the ad industry, but I don't think these are equivalent. YouTube ads don't block content so much as they delay it, much like inline ads. The equivalent YouTube ad would be if it started playing and didn't pause the video you're trying to watch.

Not sure I understand. Both are an overlay blocking content. I suspect Google would still punish an interstitial overlay with a countdown timer that dismissed it. If you don't click, YouTube sometimes makes you watch 30+ seconds of ads. Here's Google's post about it: https://webmasters.googleblog.com/2016/08/helping-users-easi...

I've seen a couple of five minute long ads on Youtube. I really doubt anyone intentionally watches them.

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Showing something different to GoogleBot than your users is against terms of service, all good until you get caught.

You're not getting "caught", and Google can fuck right off with any "terms of service" that I never agreed to about how I respond when they scrape my site without permission. I know that there are practical concerns here, but Google has done a masterful job of shaping the conversation so that many people think anything not sanctioned by Almighty Google with regard to SEO (let alone actual "blackhat" tactics) is illeg…

You’re giving permission to scrape by way of having a page accessible to the general public. If googlebot is bothering you so much, install a two line robots.txt and it’ll go away.

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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This is good. Also, can they punish sites that download 50MB of bullshit before showing a word on the page?

They do that with amp.

And people scream about it, even though it’s an unambiguously better experience for the user .

Re: Google will punish sites that use annoying pop-up ads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does this apply to twitters full-page sign up pop up?

To deal with that, right click on "Inspect element", mouse upwards until the whole popup is selected, and click "Delete Node".

this solution is absurd, do you understand?
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