Most Chinese sellers are warned to take down their services and can get away with it, I wonder why this guy was sued. It sucks though.
Chinese Man Sentenced to Prison for Selling VPN Software
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Selective enforcement is a really annoying way of seeing the law applied. And it is happening in more places than just China.
True. Rule of law is just an ideal, western developed governments are setup to help realize it, but abuses still occur. In china, rule of law is not even an ideal, its system is not setup to support it, it is considered a western imperialistic concept that does not fit china. Third world problems vs. first world ones.
Laws are made to help ruling class to rule the country. This is the first assert statement Chinese students learn when they are having middle class politics. I would not simply equate western big-money-lawyer cluster to a system of 'rule of law'. Given I have seen quite a few rich white guys are easy to get away with rapist indictment where other poor black guys get 20 years sentence.
Re: Chinese Man Sentenced to Prison for Selling VPN Software
#63What about using Windows 10 then which comes with a built-in VPN client? (A genuine concern of mine, we're building an embedded product based on Win 10 IoT and using its PPTP VPN for remote diagnostics.)
The GFW(Great Firewall) has blocked many protocols, such as IPSec, L2TP/IPSec, PPTP and OpenVPN.
SSTP (tunneling via HTTPS) is the interesting one.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That's just how it is. Each country gets to choose its policies. I mean, that's the fundamental point of being a country, isn't it? Yes, but that’s not what’s happening in China. The fundamental point of being a country is to serve the common good, and to protect the life and liberty of your citizens. In China the ruling party doesn’t care about any of those things. A policy such as this would be a lot less horribl…
In China, there are elections and anyone can vote. The only restriction is that only party nominees are on the ballot. Is this really so different from the US, where in many states the only people on the ballot are party nominees?
Right. People used to criticize the former Soviet Union in the same way. And it's true that there are two major political parties in the US. However, in many states, candidates must declare for one or the other to get on ballots. Even candidates of long-established "third parties". Also, in living memory, no third-party candidate has won the Presidency. Or indeed, ever received substantial funding from monied interests. There are some third-party members in the House and Senate, but not very many.
So yes, the distinction between China and the US is fuzzier than typically claimed. And in both, the asserted justification is limiting the field to candidates who are competent and experienced.
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#65It's iffy for Chinese nationals to run VPN services. But then, it's similarly iffy for American nationals to run other sorts of services. Such as online gambling. Or money transfer businesses that don't respect KYC regulations. That's just how it is. Each country gets to choose its policies. I mean, that's one of the fundamental points of being a country, isn't it?
> That's just how it is. Each country gets to choose its policies But without democracy, it is in no sense "the country" that chooses the policy, it's just whatever group of thugs happens to be in control of the capital city.
Very true. Some of us believe that all governments are kleptocracies. And that some just bullshit about democracy better than others.
Democracy doesn't mean anything, if systems are rigged, and voters are effectively manipulated. And with modern software, it's getting much worse. Elections are becoming clashes of voter-manipulation systems.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember seeing a documentary about China where a reporter interviewed a judge. When asked about the conflict between the law and the communist party, she said matter-of-factly, as if it were unthinkable for it to be any way else, that the party always comes first and the law second, because she is a judge appointed by the party and so she has to do what the party tells her. It was just so straight-forward; you're…
Wow. Doc name please?
I don't know the name, it was more of a hour+ news special than something in theaters.