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What people really don't seem to get is that Linus' cultural background is Finnish, and that Finns tend to be extremely outspoken and that they couldn't lie or polish their words if their life depended on it. http://www.karelia.fi/welcomingguide/the-finnish-way-of-life What to American sensibilities are grave insults to Linus is most likely just him speaking his mind without any filter in place, the way he was brough…
I'm aware of this, and I can respect differences attributable to different cultural norms. But firstly, I have spoken to a Finnish developer who has said that he also considers Linus more frustrating than average; secondly, acknowledging cultural differences creates a foundation for effective communication, but does not infallibly forgive any and all transgressions (context still matters); and thirdly, most other dev…
Why GitHub Can't Host the Linux Kernel Community
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He solved the problem with git, he's upset that the company trying to make money off it broke it again. Most of the times Linus is an asshole are completely justified. Being rude to groups like Nvidia isn't hindering progress.
I'm sure github has done more for git uptake than anyone else involved on the lkml or Linus himself. He should be thanking them for that.
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#54I imagine after the Bitkeeper fiasco, Linus and others are disinclined to become dependent on a proprietary service.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
He solved the problem with git, he's upset that the company trying to make money off it broke it again. Most of the times Linus is an asshole are completely justified. Being rude to groups like Nvidia isn't hindering progress.
I don't much care whether Linus individually has the justification to be an asshole or not. The problem is that Linus being an asshole causes many other engineers to think it's ok/expected/encouraged to be assholes. All the non-assholes quietly disappear and we're left with a room full of assholes.
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#57I'm fine with that. Github is 'too large to fail' already, adding the Linux kernel to the pile and forcing the kernel team into Github's workflow are two big negatives. It would be great for Github but bad for everybody else.
Personally I'm a fan (and user) of gitlab since GitHub's recent policies and that GitHub takes forever to implement simple things that all users would love (like free private repos)
What makes you think Github is 'taking forever' to implement that feature, instead of refusing to implement it to help their business model?
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#59I imagine after the Bitkeeper fiasco, Linus and others are disinclined to become dependent on a proprietary service.
Hm, I don't think so. Linus never had a problem with bitkeeper being proprietary, and he actually was annoyed when Andrew Tridgell tried to reverse-engineer the bitkeeper protocol. Linus seemed very unhappy with Tridgell, not with Larry McVoy for making bitkeeper proprietary. He built git out of necessity, not out of some desire to have free software.
Why was that?
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Hm, I don't think so. Linus never had a problem with bitkeeper being proprietary, and he actually was annoyed when Andrew Tridgell tried to reverse-engineer the bitkeeper protocol. Linus seemed very unhappy with Tridgell, not with Larry McVoy for making bitkeeper proprietary. He built git out of necessity, not out of some desire to have free software.
> and he actually was annoyed when Andrew Tridgell tried to reverse-engineer the bitkeeper protocol. Linus seemed very unhappy with Tridgell Why was that?
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