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Post by skinnymuch »

Splines wrote: post #218
skinnymuch wrote: post #207

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No state income tax has to be a big advantage too. However the rain and lack of sun kills me. I could handle year round rain if it meant it's at least sunny a lot too. It would suck, but personally the lack of sun affects my mood too much. Otherwise especially with the no state income tax, if I'm making pretty good bank, and moving isn't an issue, moving to Seattle would be a top choice. Instead, the people who do mo…

There's certainly less sun in Seattle, but it's not too bad: https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/Washington/annual-day... SF has about 60 days more of sun per year: https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/California/annual-day... Personally, I find the weather quite nice in the PNW. The traffic though... it's really the worst. Traffic is constantly bad during business hours.

Does it depend on where you are in the Pacific Northwest for sun? Like is it consistent with the location of the city? I'm wondering how much sun Portland and Vancouver get.

Yeah it isn't too bad. But I get seasonal depression on top of issues already. So it would be hard for me personally. Weather is great though.

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Post by zippergz »

devmpk wrote: post #245
zippergz wrote: post #95

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There are a lot of nice things about Seattle, but I moved away after over a decade because I found that almost never seeing the sun was making me incredibly depressed. Moving to a place that's sunny has improved my quality of life even more than I could have imagined. YMMV.

Did you move to Philadelphia?

Southern California.

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Post by [deleted] »

ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

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Post by ffumarola »

pascalxus wrote: post #230
ffumarola wrote: post #203

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It's only like doubling your salary if you spend your entire income. When you move to a new area, the change in disposable income is determined by salary - expenses*cost of living. Example You make $100k in city A and spend $40k on expenses. That leaves $60k disposable. You are considering a job in city B with half the cost of living and the same pay. You still make $100k but your expenses have gone from $40k to $20k…

Your math is right. But, you've got to understand the cost of real estate is much much more than double in SF. Realistically, in Ralleigh regional area you can pay 120$/sq ft vs 1000$/sq ft in the SF Regional area (perhaps 500$/sq ft if your willing to commute for 3 hrs/day). Now, SF might be a great place if you have no kids, no expenses and rent a tiny little room. But, as soon as you want to have a family and back…

I live in SF, I understand the cost of real estate. I'm not arguing that lifestyle expectations are very different between cities. So given you move to SF and understand you'll be in a smaller house because that is the market norm, the COLA still is only on what you spend.

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Post by ffumarola »

madcaptenor wrote: post #246
ffumarola wrote: post #206

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Those calculators are ridiculous because they assume you spend your entire income. The cost of living adjustment only applies to what you spend when evaluating which salary:city combination is ideal for you.

Those calculators are ridiculous because they assume you spend your entire income. For most Americans that's pretty close to being correct - the average savings rate is around 6%. ( https://www.fool.com/investing/2016/10/03/heres-the-average-... )

That's mostly a choice for high income earners, and much of that discretionary spend costs similar amounts no matter where you live.

Vacation costs, Amazon splurges, etc, don't change between Akron and SF.

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Post by becga »

logfromblammo wrote: post #210
echelon wrote: post #194

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Atlanta is amazing. It has an extremely low cost of living, yet there are tech companies here paying SF wages. Anecdotally, my rent is $1300/mo for a 900 sqft loft directly on Atlanta's Beltline [1], and my total comp is (edit: decided to remove this since I might get doxed. I'll be happy to talk with anyone seriously considering Atlanta via email). It's also been really interesting to see Georgia rocket to the #2 lo…

I really want to like Atlanta, but the whole city makes my skin crawl. Whenever we go there, usually to take in an MLB game, I just want to turn around and leave immediately. There doesn't seem to be any rational reason for it. When the spouse drives out of town to go stalk Walking Dead filming locations, the overwhelming sense of dread eases up, and I just get bored looking at bits of rural Georgia that were lucky e…

Might be just the right ingredients of EMF Radiation and Climate which don't agree with you.

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Post by Danihan »

MegaButts wrote: post #258
Danihan wrote: post #237

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What are the main toolsets in use / in demand on the software side? I'm in the Bay Area and I'm feeling underpaid. Please tell me what to learn. Off-topic: try a five day water fast for your migraines. You need neuronal autophagy.

Personally what I look at is what someone has built. If someone is a great engineer they can adapt, although there are some limits to this (I wouldn't hire someone who only works with MATLAB for a position that largely involves coding in C++). What I like to see are demos, not papers (although a demo of a paper is excellent). ROS is something of a standard framework used in many places. AI is largely a buzzword and c…

Also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm626MgpveI

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Post by icelancer »

cylinder wrote: post #174
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Been here 12 years and while I agree with those things (not that I care for IPA or weed), there are HUGE major cons: -Traffic is quickly becoming worse than all cities in the US and the tunnel nightmare will not solve that (many projections say it will make it worse) -Local and regional bureaucracy is far worse here than comparable west coast cities -Massively regressive taxes due to no state income tax (consumption…

You act like people are forgoing some Epic Utopia City to live in Seattle. Hate to break it to you but every major US city has these problems and usually more. Dysfunction is at every level.

The "cons" are literally comparative to other cities.

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Post by Splines »

skinnymuch wrote: post #271
Splines wrote: post #218

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There's certainly less sun in Seattle, but it's not too bad: https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/Washington/annual-day... SF has about 60 days more of sun per year: https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/California/annual-day... Personally, I find the weather quite nice in the PNW. The traffic though... it's really the worst. Traffic is constantly bad during business hours.

Does it depend on where you are in the Pacific Northwest for sun? Like is it consistent with the location of the city? I'm wondering how much sun Portland and Vancouver get. Yeah it isn't too bad. But I get seasonal depression on top of issues already. So it would be hard for me personally. Weather is great though.

From what I've observed, Vancouver weather is closely correlated to Seattle weather (it's fairly close to Seattle). I haven't actually compared the data though. Similarly, I would imagine that weather in Portland is quite different than the Seattle/Vancouver area. The entire King County area experiences the same weather - Lake Washington probably influences things, but anecdotally I haven't heard anything like "location foo gets more rain than location bar".

Generally, the weather is Seattle is heavily influenced by Puget Sound and the rain shadow east of the Olympic Peninsula (parts on the west side of the Olympic Peninsula are actually classified as rainforest). So we get less rain than you would think and it's fairly moderate.

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