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Post by closeparen »

throwanem wrote: post #146
j7ake wrote: post #109

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There is a cost to having to commute more than an hour to work compared to living 5 minutes to work by walk. Once you try the difference you won't go back unless there are serious economic differences between the two choices.

An hour commute by foot and train is not at all the same animal as an hour by car. Only the latter is wasted.

The options available when standing on a train (podcasts) are about the same as driving (radio). If you're talking about a train with 1:1 or better seats per passenger, though, sure.

I've had an hour-long walking and train commute for the last year, and by the end was extremely burnt out. Moved to a smaller and more expensive place in the city with a 15 minute bike ride and couldn't be happier.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by closeparen »

tmccrmck wrote: post #228
wenc wrote: post #175

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I'm a little surprised Chicago is not on the list. The Chicago tech scene is not huge, but it is growing, and it is definitely much more dynamic than Philly or LA or San Diego. It is the third largest metro in the country with a large hinterland, so cost of living is still fairly affordable. Tales of crime are overblown by the media -- they are mostly outside the city, and normalized to population, is not significant…

I've always been confused as to why Chicago isn't more of a tech hub. Great city, great people, cheap housing, good transportation (by US standards), good schools, etc. Are the Google, Microsoft, and Amazon offices engineering offices? I know that the Microsoft one is not.

When I looked, Chicago had:

- Cost center IT departments for the healthcare and insurance sectors out in the exurbs (presumably low respect and high risk of outsourcing).

- Quant trading for the commodities market downtown (and really nothing else, unless finance is your cup of tea).

I'd love to work for a SV-style technology company in Chicago.

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Post by reducesuffering »

njarboe wrote: post #216
uiri wrote: post #97

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California is the only state in the US where that is legal. I'm guessing serious traffic problems are the reason why.

I read somewhere that California has a tradition of lane splitting due to the fact that it was an early adopter of multiple controlled access freeways that would be often have traffic jams for miles. Most early motorcycles would overheat if not moving, so motorcyclists had a high incentive to drive between stopped cars in a traffic jam. This tradition continues to the present day, even though legality of lane splitti…

Actually lane splitting has been legislated in the past year and is definitely legal when not >15mph faster than nearby cars.

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Post by rpazyaquian »

Finnucane wrote: post #227
rpazyaquian wrote: post #177

Boston doesn't seem to be doing very well in the long-term. I moved here to take advantage of both the presence of tech jobs, and to live in an accepting, progressive blue state. If I want to stay in the area, what field should I be transitioning into? I know the Boston area has a lot of medical/health companies around, and it might be worth it to start looking at those kinds of companies as a long-term solution. Are…

I guess it depends on what you count as a 'tech job.' I'm in Cambridge, and obviously the universities are major employers, and biotech/pharma is a dominant industry (our neighborhood surrounded by labs).

Software engineering, I guess, which is my field. I've heard that university work in this tends to be mediocre (and with pay to match), although biotech/pharma can be good.

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Post by devmpk »

zippergz wrote: post #95
zw123456 wrote: post #40

Reasons for Seattle: 1) take a long shower 2) wash your car 3) water your lawn 4) cheap electrical rates 5) enjoy the outdoors 6) awesome IPA's 7) pot is legal 8) great culture 9) moderate weather as global warming progresses downside - traffic is horrible. That is my take as a long time Seattlite.

There are a lot of nice things about Seattle, but I moved away after over a decade because I found that almost never seeing the sun was making me incredibly depressed. Moving to a place that's sunny has improved my quality of life even more than I could have imagined. YMMV.

Did you move to Philadelphia?

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Post by madcaptenor »

ffumarola wrote: post #206
wakkaflokka wrote: post #172

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That's some incredible money, congrats! I'm not going to pretend this is scientific in any way, but using online COL calculators ( http://money.cnn.com/calculator/pf/cost-of-living/index.html ), $300k in San Francisco is supposedly (taken with many grains of salt) equivalent to $172k in Atlanta, which you could surely land?

Those calculators are ridiculous because they assume you spend your entire income. The cost of living adjustment only applies to what you spend when evaluating which salary:city combination is ideal for you.

Those calculators are ridiculous because they assume you spend your entire income.

For most Americans that's pretty close to being correct - the average savings rate is around 6%. (https://www.fool.com/investing/2016/10/03/heres-the-average-...)

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Post by 0xbear »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #115
0xbear wrote: post #56

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Also: no income tax. If it's introduced, people will leave in massive droves, because as nice as those things are, 6 months of rain every year is not everyone's cup of tea

Good, I hope they do leave, and it's 9 months of rain, not 6 :). Will the last person to leave Seattle please turn out the lights?

So you'd like to turn Seattle into Detroit? I take it you don't live here.

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Post by [deleted] »

ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

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Post by addicted »

logfromblammo wrote: post #210
echelon wrote: post #194

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Atlanta is amazing. It has an extremely low cost of living, yet there are tech companies here paying SF wages. Anecdotally, my rent is $1300/mo for a 900 sqft loft directly on Atlanta's Beltline [1], and my total comp is (edit: decided to remove this since I might get doxed. I'll be happy to talk with anyone seriously considering Atlanta via email). It's also been really interesting to see Georgia rocket to the #2 lo…

I really want to like Atlanta, but the whole city makes my skin crawl. Whenever we go there, usually to take in an MLB game, I just want to turn around and leave immediately. There doesn't seem to be any rational reason for it. When the spouse drives out of town to go stalk Walking Dead filming locations, the overwhelming sense of dread eases up, and I just get bored looking at bits of rural Georgia that were lucky e…

Lived in Atlanta. Glad to get out. I don't think I've disliked any city as much as I did Atlanta, and I have no idea why.

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Post by rublev »

lhorie wrote: post #219
rublev wrote: post #188

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Toronto is not a tech hub haha. We have a huge financial district and lots of "financial startups". The salaries are absolute bottom tier though. 50-60k USD at the high level.

In my experience, 50k USD is entry level pay (~1-2 yr experience). Tech salaries tend to cap out at around 100-120k USD for director/VP roles, but you can reasonably expect to find 80k USD jobs if you're a software dev who's reasonably up-to-date with one of the in-demand tech stacks and have a few years of experience.

80k CAD = 64k USD. I can make 2-2.5x more for the same job, remotely. Around 140-160k USD.
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