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Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by rifung »

fweespeech wrote: post #41
dzink wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Atlanta is the center of tech ambitions for the southeast. It has a lot of Fortune 500 company headquarters - Turner Broadcasting with 18+ major online brands, Home Depot, Lowe's, etc. Yahoo and Google had offices. There are also a lot of small satellite consulting firms. Cost of housing is much lower, though traffic is bad as well. It's a nice green city, but Venture funding is low, so it depends on your ambitions.

I'd be very cautious about Atlanta. Outside of Google, many of the companies there are wanting to pay salaries I'd consider substantially below market (even including COLA) compared to the other hubs. That includes those fortune 500 companies (a couple of whom had internal recruiters bail when I mentioned my current salary + the COLA number). Cutting your real estate costs by $12-15k goes a long way but it doesn't ma…

> I'd be very cautious about Atlanta. Outside of Google, many of the companies there are wanting to pay salaries I'd consider substantially below market (even including COLA) compared to the other hubs.

If most companies are paying a certain salary, doesn't that imply that salary IS market rate?

I don't think you can directly compare salaries across cities even after factoring in cost of living since it ignores the fact some places are more desirable to live in than others and thus should command "premiums".

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by enjo »

maxdemarzi wrote: post #76

Move to Round Rock folks! You can get a 4000 sq.ft. home, a half acre yard and a pool for less than a San Francisco studio. You pay $4000 a month to rent a 1 bedroom? You can rent a whole house here for half of that. Pay is the same if you just ask. Too many jobs and not enough local people to fill them.

Round Rock is an exurb tho. If you're ok with that, then great! But it's hardly and apples to apples comparison. A better comparison is the going rate for rent in Austin proper.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by ido »

maxdemarzi wrote: post #101
rconti wrote: post #85

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Hot as hell. More humid than hell half the time, oddly dry the other half.

Sure it's hot and humid, thankfully everything is Air Conditioned and I'm in the pool every night. No public transportation means no public transportation that smells like urine. Since housing is so cheap everyone has nice cars.

The desirability of transit is not because people love taking the subway, it's because cars as the main form of transport do not scale well with city size.

Anecdotal example: when we lived in Tel Aviv (bad transit, although probably not as bad as many places in the US) I had several jobs and it would take me 50-60 minutes to get from home to work or vice versa.

This was not just me but is usual in greater Tel Aviv, unless you can afford to live in the city (almost nobody with kids does, metro tel aviv has 3.7m residents vs 450k for the city itself).

We've lived in Vienna before we moved and moved to Berlin after, both cities with great transit (that sometimes smell like piss). Both metros are comparable in size to TLV (metro Vienna 2.6m, metro Berlin 4.5m) and I've had several jobs in either - it usually takes 30-40 minutes to get to work and again it's not just me but the common case.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by walshemj »

acchow wrote: post #98
ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

Their data is obviously broken. If you look at the source, it is "Indeed", which is obviously not an unbiased sample of data. Let's pick a huge employer in Silicon Valley, Facebook, and search for jobs on Indeed. https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=facebook&l=Menlo+Park%2C+CA Not a single Software Engineer position. And I really don't think hot San Francisco startups are using Indeed to look for talent, which is why SF fal…

Indeed is a scraper with lots of low quality inventory or as my boss ex Total Jobs director said "shit inventory".

Tier one employers don't normally advertise on indeed

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by user5994461 »

theWatcher37 wrote: post #62
CoachRufus87 wrote: post #54

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I thought stealth mode meant that a company had yet to launch. Do you mean that they're not pursuing press, just keeping their heads down and making money?

My apologies, I mean that yes their press is non-existent but they're printing money, 2 of which with zero fundraising and 1 who recently passed $1 mil on only $100k investment. They're doing great, GT has several major incubators competing with each other over all the companies being formed by GT's (seemingly recent) push towards startup culture.

Very small companies so.

Be realistic for a minute, they can probably not afford the talents from HN.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by user5994461 »

rifung wrote: post #121
fweespeech wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be very cautious about Atlanta. Outside of Google, many of the companies there are wanting to pay salaries I'd consider substantially below market (even including COLA) compared to the other hubs. That includes those fortune 500 companies (a couple of whom had internal recruiters bail when I mentioned my current salary + the COLA number). Cutting your real estate costs by $12-15k goes a long way but it doesn't ma…

> I'd be very cautious about Atlanta. Outside of Google, many of the companies there are wanting to pay salaries I'd consider substantially below market (even including COLA) compared to the other hubs. If most companies are paying a certain salary, doesn't that imply that salary IS market rate? I don't think you can directly compare salaries across cities even after factoring in cost of living since it ignores the f…

There isn't such a thing as "market rate"

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by icelancer »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #114
icelancer wrote: post #104

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Been here 12 years and while I agree with those things (not that I care for IPA or weed), there are HUGE major cons: -Traffic is quickly becoming worse than all cities in the US and the tunnel nightmare will not solve that (many projections say it will make it worse) -Local and regional bureaucracy is far worse here than comparable west coast cities -Massively regressive taxes due to no state income tax (consumption…

There are plenty of nice school districts outside of Seattle. Bellevue, Shoreline, Northshore.... Coming from LA, I'm looking forward to cheaper housing prices when I move there next month.

>Bellevue, Shoreline, Northshore

That's the issue. It's all urban flight to suburbs. I live in the inner city and see it every day.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by paul6987 »

DC and Baltimore is the land of govt contracting where designers and developers can command hourly rates of 60 to 100 an hour based on skill-set. There's tons of demand too and the cost of living is fairly inexpensive.

I just left my high paying govt contract job as I tried working things out with a co-worker who suddenly became a real S#$t to work with .. tried one on one with him & then with management. Overall nothing changed after months so I left and will be starting a better paying job in 2 weeks. There's too much demand to sit and take crap from anyone.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by godelmachine »

theWatcher37 wrote: post #47
fweespeech wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be very cautious about Atlanta. Outside of Google, many of the companies there are wanting to pay salaries I'd consider substantially below market (even including COLA) compared to the other hubs. That includes those fortune 500 companies (a couple of whom had internal recruiters bail when I mentioned my current salary + the COLA number). Cutting your real estate costs by $12-15k goes a long way but it doesn't ma…

I can assure you there are plenty of engineers making north of $100k in midtown

Which midtown? Atlanta's midtow?
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