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Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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How is this different from Tree Tabs?

There's no tree, it's flat. I find it works better than Tree Tabs at the moment unless you need the tree.

Shameless plug: the current lack of a WebExtension for vertical tabs bothered me, so I wrote one: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vertigo-tabs/

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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I wish tabs/windows worked more like persistent "workspaces". For example, say I'm booking a trip. I always open a bunch of sites (Kayak, Booking.com, lots of hotels, Google Maps, places to visit, etc.) in a single window. In pre-computer times it would be like covering a desk with a ton of papers, books and notes. Gradually I will figure out stuff, book the trip, etc. but the tabs can stay for quite a while. I feel…

Edge has this since Creators update. Unfortunately, Edge is pretty bad in ways that actually matter (UI responsiveness, reliability).

Vivaldi has tab groups, and lets you put the tab bar on the side (where it becomes kind of like a tree).

https://help.vivaldi.com/article/grouping-tabs/

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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As usual, there's a relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/609/ From 2009, so rather ahead of the curve.

Not ahead of the curve at all, it describes a quite common use of the web for power users. I've had the habits 100+ tabs open in browsers a few years before maxthon released its international version in 2006.

Opera was that one browser that really enabled that workflow very well back in the day. Having several dozen tabs open was pretty common, even as far back as Opera 6 (2001 I think?).

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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I am tab hoarder. It's a serious problem. So many links that I want to read. But I don't feel like doing it right now. And I know for certain that if I put it into a bookmark, I will never ever look at it again. So they sit on my tab bar for months until I get around to it. Looking at my current open tabs, most of them are dense "boring" reading material like scientific papers (or reddit/HN discussions of them.) I fe…

Hello, you mention it as a serious problem. I agree and I think it's good to be aware of it. I don't believe it should be up to the browser to deal with tabs. I don't actually believe tabs are a particularly good representation of browsing. Using extremely light browsers such as surf ( http://surf.suckless.org ) in a good window manager such as i3 ( https://i3wm.org ) makes each page a first class window, without any…

"You're holding it wrong"?

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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post #218

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In principle I agree, but in practice... I can't let go of my hoarding ways. What if there's a nugget of information hiding in all those tabs that could ︎ change my life?

Frequent occurrence, in my experience. And I'm very happy about better support for this kludge, but I do wish that someone would get to the roots of the needs that cause this use of tabs, and design the correct interface for it instead.

Try Vivaldi.

It also has a very interesting fresh take on history.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Well, until they git rid of XUL add-ons in November/FF57, I live and die by the Tab Groups extension. I have a group of tabs for various things in AWS, a group for various things in my build system, a group for the various Jira and Confluence things, a group for mail and google docs, a group for my company's HR requirements (timesheeting), a group for programming docs, and any one of these groups can have additional…

There's a new Tree Tabs that works on 57 FWIW https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-tabs/ not as nice as the old one (but it's improving!), I just use Tab Center Redux.

There's also talk of implementing Tree Style Tabs as a WebExtension. It appears the required APIs have been approved, they're just waiting on someone to implement them:

https://github.com/piroor/treestyletab/issues/1224

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Check out the Firefox extension "Simplified Tab Groups" to create named groups of tabs: [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-groups/

Holy shit. Don't have time to try it right now, but if it does what I want I probably will go back to Firefox. Thanks!

It was a built-in feature for manu Firefox releases (called Panorama), but then it was removed, and ended up in extensions.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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"Session Buddy" on Chrome has been really useful for me. It lets you save and group open tas and windows, plus export them as list. (No affiliation) https://sessionbuddy.com/

I use onetab though it only saves the tabs and can only be exported as plain text but it fills all my needs.

I used to be a big OneTab user, but Session Buddy really is a lot better for reviewing, saving, loading, and editing your windows and sessions. If you've never used it, I'd recommend giving it a try.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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By default they do start playing immediately in Firefox. Configurable with the media.block-autoplay-until-in-foreground setting.

Sorry but you got the wrong setting here. To disable autoplay it's media.autoplay.enabled

media.autoplay.enabled toggles whether videos in the current (foreground) tab starts auto playing or not

The question was about videos in a background tab, which is controlled by the media.block-autoplay-until-in-foreground setting.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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I'm really glad that people at Mozilla use ridiculous numbers of tabs too. Lazy-loading of tabs is the reason I switched to firefox. I'm not sure if it's still this way, but Chrome used to load every tab on startup. So even if you only had 100 tabs, you were looking at 5+ minute startup time. God-forbid that any of them were Youtube, or you'd have to go through and pause them all. I've just updated to Firefox 55 to t…

So even if you only had 100 tabs This is fucking surreal. Why on Earth would anyone want 100 open tabs, besides testing? What's the real life scenario we're looking at here?

Hardly surreal, that's just my workflow, which works well under Firefox, so I don't see the need to change it. Sometimes, when I reach a few hundred open tabs, I just clean them all up (at a few thousand it was usually becoming slow, so I started to clean up earlier; looks like with the new changes I might be able to reach thousands again)
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