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Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by scott_karana »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #415

I love Firefox and never had issues, except at work. For some odd reason it will break, all tabs will look white and all I see is a loading icon on the middle no matter what tab I click on ruining my workflow. No idea what that's about since at home Firefox works fine, Chrome seems to work fine at work on the other hand. I guess I'll be using Chrome at work and Firefox at home till I figure out how whats causing the…

I had a very similar issue (running e18s) with uBlock Origin after restoring my computer from backups.

I narrowed down the problem to that add on by selectively disabling them.

Uninstalling and reinstalling uBlock fixed it.

YMMV, but figured I ought to speak up :)

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by Sonicrida »

icelancer wrote: post #357
iamleppert wrote: post #352

Firefox is a case study in how performance really does matter. A lot. It used to be the best browser, and then something happened and it gradually became slow, really slow, while Chrome became fast. Who was in charge over at Mozilla during all this? Any engineering director worth their salt would have noticed what was happening and installed metrics that didn't let engineers commit code that caused performance regres…

I think multiprocess/multi-tab was a big separator for a long time, as well as plugin memory leakage being way worse on Firefox (initially because Chrome had nearly none to speak of). I very reluctantly switched to Chrome. I loved Firefox. I even know today that Firefox likely suits my needs better... but at this point I'm too old and too stuck to change. Chrome doesn't yet make me so angry that I have to switch. Hor…

I will check up on Firefox every couple of months to see if it's still slow. The moment at which I feel the performance matches my chrome experience, I'm going back.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by Manishearth »

6ak74rfy wrote: post #513
Manishearth wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that Tab Center will stop working by the end of this year, but I have found https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-center-re... to be an adequate replacement!

How is this different from Tree Tabs?

There's no tree, it's flat. I find it works better than Tree Tabs at the moment unless you need the tree.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by yoz-y »

atombender wrote: post #233
elorant wrote: post #162

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So even if you only had 100 tabs This is fucking surreal. Why on Earth would anyone want 100 open tabs, besides testing? What's the real life scenario we're looking at here?

I wish tabs/windows worked more like persistent "workspaces". For example, say I'm booking a trip. I always open a bunch of sites (Kayak, Booking.com, lots of hotels, Google Maps, places to visit, etc.) in a single window. In pre-computer times it would be like covering a desk with a ton of papers, books and notes. Gradually I will figure out stuff, book the trip, etc. but the tabs can stay for quite a while. I feel…

I've been trying to work like this but I just can't. So far I found no way of actually confining each activity into its own window. Mainly because opening a new page from an external applications opens it in a seemingly random opened window. I finally abandoned the idea and just use tab searching extension

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by justin66 »

moogly wrote: post #516
justin66 wrote: post #286

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Bookmarks are tabs that you're sure you want to keep permanently.

Bookmarks are where links go to die, never to be opened again.

I wouldn't say "die." A link that is never opened again can serve a few useful purposes if it is indexed among a user's bookmarks. (discovering these purposes is left as an exercise to the reader)

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by efreak »

davidgerard wrote: post #397
Houshalter wrote: post #285

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I am tab hoarder. It's a serious problem. So many links that I want to read. But I don't feel like doing it right now. And I know for certain that if I put it into a bookmark, I will never ever look at it again. So they sit on my tab bar for months until I get around to it. Looking at my current open tabs, most of them are dense "boring" reading material like scientific papers (or reddit/HN discussions of them.) I fe…

Yep, another here. I have tabs that have been there in FF for several months ... I also have to run a FF and a Chromium (two separate Google accounts is basically unmanageable without separate browsers). This is enough to fill 8GB. Good Lord the web is fat these days.

Chrome has profiles. I use multiple profiles for this. You can easily have two or more profiles loaded and running at the same time, and each has its own cookie jar/login set. When I need to do it on a borrowed computer, then I just use incognito mode for the second profile.

I also use chrome profiles to separate my workspaces, so I don't have to load everything all the time and search through my tabs to find the one I want. I even sync them to different accounts.

Mobile is the only place I use multiple browsers, due to mobile browsers not supporting multiple windows, even though chrome has already had the functionality for it in the past (remember the chrome 'desktop' when chrome ran in metro mode? Alternatively, just have multiple entries in overview). On my tablet I have six browsers, which is probably more than I really need; two incognito browsers and four mobile browsers. Various combinations of add-ons (firefox) and not (chrome), incognito (focus and inbrowser) browsers, and browsers (chrome) with JavaScript disabled.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by starik36 »

Sonicrida wrote: post #522
icelancer wrote: post #357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think multiprocess/multi-tab was a big separator for a long time, as well as plugin memory leakage being way worse on Firefox (initially because Chrome had nearly none to speak of). I very reluctantly switched to Chrome. I loved Firefox. I even know today that Firefox likely suits my needs better... but at this point I'm too old and too stuck to change. Chrome doesn't yet make me so angry that I have to switch. Hor…

I will check up on Firefox every couple of months to see if it's still slow. The moment at which I feel the performance matches my chrome experience, I'm going back.

You should check today then. The performance more than matches Chrome. In some area, it's straight up faster than Chrome (like closing tabs, for instance).

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by ksec »

Houshalter wrote: post #285
elorant wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So even if you only had 100 tabs This is fucking surreal. Why on Earth would anyone want 100 open tabs, besides testing? What's the real life scenario we're looking at here?

I am tab hoarder. It's a serious problem. So many links that I want to read. But I don't feel like doing it right now. And I know for certain that if I put it into a bookmark, I will never ever look at it again. So they sit on my tab bar for months until I get around to it. Looking at my current open tabs, most of them are dense "boring" reading material like scientific papers (or reddit/HN discussions of them.) I fe…

Exactly the same here. For Example at the moment it is Crypto Currency. Likely in the range of 50 Tabs.

Like you said about the boring material. I wouldn't think of them as boring. But detailed, and basically takes a long time to grasp. I will need to spend at least an hour or two on the topic. And i since it is not the most important things in life This two hours schedules gets put away for the time being.

Then there is the Apple News tabs hoard which happens in Apple Events.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by idlewan »

intherdfield wrote: post #62
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #6

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Hard to love when the broken extension ecosystem prevents the use of vertical tabs for these scenarios.

> Hard to love when the broken extension ecosystem prevents the use of vertical tabs for these scenarios. Here's an in-development vertical tabs extension using their new extensions API. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-center-redux/ Apparently the tabs still show up at the top because the API to disable that isn't available yet. But you get vertical tabs and it should get better over time. I've bee…

I've started making another one that try to respect the system's theme: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vertigo-tabs/
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