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Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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I'm pretty sure it's a Chrome-specific lazy autoplaying of html5 video. I really like to alt-click Youtube links (so the page is loaded and queued), put my headphones on and switch over when I'm ready.

Firefox does this too. It's on by default for Firefox Nightly and an opt-in preference in the other update channels.

So what you say is that firefox does not do this. (unless you go deep in about:config which is highly discouraged by mozilla).

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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I'm really glad that people at Mozilla use ridiculous numbers of tabs too. Lazy-loading of tabs is the reason I switched to firefox. I'm not sure if it's still this way, but Chrome used to load every tab on startup. So even if you only had 100 tabs, you were looking at 5+ minute startup time. God-forbid that any of them were Youtube, or you'd have to go through and pause them all. I've just updated to Firefox 55 to t…

> I hope that Firefox focuses more on power users in the future. I got 8 extensions installed at the moment, 6 of those are marked as legacy and will stop working before the end of the year. I also hope Mozilla focuses more on power users, but I think a lot of them will leave when their favorite extensions stops working and Google keeps favoring Chrome on their sites.

Hope is not enough, it's clear that mozilla has a strong stance against power users.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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This, exactly. I'd love to open half a dozen tabs pointing at videos, without having to wait for each one to load and then quickly pause it. (Related: I'd also really like to middle-click video annotations to open them in a tab. No, I don't want to replace the current video with them.)

Some sites, such as YouTube, don't start playing a video until you switch to the tab.

Some sites maybe, but definitely not youtube.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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You had all that in the old Opera browser, but people liked slower and more resource-consuming alternatives better.

I miss Opera 12 so much :'(

I miss it dearly too, buddy, it was a real joy to use.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Some sites, such as YouTube, don't start playing a video until you switch to the tab.

By default they do start playing immediately in Firefox. Configurable with the media.block-autoplay-until-in-foreground setting.

Sorry but you got the wrong setting here. To disable autoplay it's media.autoplay.enabled

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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post #39

I'm really glad that people at Mozilla use ridiculous numbers of tabs too. Lazy-loading of tabs is the reason I switched to firefox. I'm not sure if it's still this way, but Chrome used to load every tab on startup. So even if you only had 100 tabs, you were looking at 5+ minute startup time. God-forbid that any of them were Youtube, or you'd have to go through and pause them all. I've just updated to Firefox 55 to t…

YouTube don't autoplay when not the active tab.

So you're a google chrome user, because this only happens in chrome.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Yes but I have found that if you "open in new tab" then it loads the page even though it is in the background. It should do as it does as startup but doesn't.

This, exactly. I'd love to open half a dozen tabs pointing at videos, without having to wait for each one to load and then quickly pause it. (Related: I'd also really like to middle-click video annotations to open them in a tab. No, I don't want to replace the current video with them.)

With firefox go to about:config and disable media.autoplay.enabled now you have to click play for the video to start.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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post #43

There are a lot of people who use tabs as bookmarks. Seems like a good way to keep the RAM industry going strong. Someone once told me (seriously) "I need at least 128 GB of RAM otherwise I can't keep my tabs open." But does everything you were interested in over the last X weeks or months really need to be loaded up? No, and if you use it like that then it can't preload stuff. I think the main lesson is that bookmar…

Bookmarks have been broken in browsers for more than a decade. Using bookmarks requires so much work and time that it makes no sense to use them.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Chrome has supported lazy loading for a while now. I unfortunately can't find this reference, but I remember it being announced as part of release notes many months ago. I have the problem of moving a tab to a new window, and then 15 minutes later I have 15 tabs open. So I often have a few Chrome windows open at any point. If I restart Chrome, only the focused tabs on each window are loaded.

How do I enable that? I can't find it anywhere.

There is no switch. It's an inbuilt feature with the Chrme 57+

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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That's because the bookmarkers sucks. They do not adapt to what you are doing, you need to do a lot of setup and organize a lot to be able to use it well. It should be more organic, grow with the use you make. I still believe that anyone who makes a better bookmark will dominate more than just the browser war.

Bookmarking always struck me as a 90s solution to just having fulltext search and analytics over your browser history, there have been a few attempts at browsers that addressed this head-on, but they've all died off over time IMO just one good new tab UI over a user's history/local cache could make a sizeable dent in Google's ad revenue

Opera with its unique cache offered the option to have full text search in history and it was great. Then quarterly profit became a priority for the board and they dropped their browser to become a google chrome advanced skin.
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