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Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by krallja »

Osmose wrote: post #125
hammock wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox lazy loads tabs on startup, but not otherwise. So if you open a YouTube in a new tab it will start playing. Chrome, on the other hand, will not start playing the video, which is nice. I'm a Firefox user though so that's where my chrome knowledge starts and ends.

The current Nightly doesn't autoplay until I focus the tab now. I'm not sure if this is a Youtube-the-website feature or Firefox-lazy-load feature.

It's Firefox https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14824509

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by jeffbryner »

lobster_johnson wrote: post #60

I've been considering switching to Firefox due to these performance improvements, but the one feature that's always missing is for the location bar to autocomplete terms from other sources such as Wikipedia. Is there some add-on I can install that can fix this? Safari is brilliant here. If you enter something in Safari's location bar, it will suggest Wikipedia and other search suggestions right away [1]. I use this f…

Like this? https://s13.postimg.org/l8vjukezr/Screen_Shot_2017-07-21_at_...

It's just the search box next to the location/url bar. Now has search options to start out at wiki/amazon/twitter etc.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by kbenson »

gboudrias wrote: post #248
hossbeast wrote: post #239

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It's time to deprecate bookmarks in browsers, and add workspaces.

Don't touch my bookmarks! I have all my tabs in my headspace at all times, I need bookmarks to mentally organize my stuff in the short-term/long-term category. If bookmarks are deprecated I'll have to save workspaces made up of a single page and I'll just feel silly. Edit: Plus you can use bookmark folders as workspaces already I guess? I don't but you can, fairly easily!

Merge, not replace. If there's a special bookmark group that dynamically contains current tabs, then you have the best of both.

Let a group of tabs be a bookmark folder that has the "show" attribute set, and so dynamically tracks what is shown.

Want to show all tabs in a group/folder? Toggle show.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by BenjiWiebe »

faizshah wrote: post #268
elorant wrote: post #162

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So even if you only had 100 tabs This is fucking surreal. Why on Earth would anyone want 100 open tabs, besides testing? What's the real life scenario we're looking at here?

I usually have around 400 tabs open across 10 windows. They build up because I have many things that I intend to read, use or reference but I don't want to stash them and forget to read them like with Pocket or normal bookmarks. So I keep them open in a window so that I can return to whatever I was researching or working on some time soon. Just an example: I'm working on an ML model, I begin by researching prior work…

I have the same issue of not reading things I bookmark... Until recently, when I installed Random Bookmark add-on which allows me to open random bookmarks. So now when I'm bored I just click it a lot and finally read those bookmarks.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by [deleted] »

always_good wrote: post #182
throwaway91111 wrote: post #180

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Yea, but that reduces the value of tabs overall. You can't just glance at the top of the browser to remember where you just were. If i don't look at a tab for a few hours, it's not worth keeping around as it just adds to the noise without providing value. If i need to read something, i either read it immediately or bookmark it to read later. The result: i can confidently resume work without distractions at any time.

> You can't just glance at the top of the > browser to remember where you just were. You just look at the last X tabs you opened. Just because it's not your workflow doesn't invalidate it. With tree-style tabs, each root represents a train of thought. I just collapse them until I decide what to do with them. Sometimes I bookmark and banish them. Sometimes I come back to that thought next weekend. Chrome's default tab…

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Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by BenjiWiebe »

pavanky wrote: post #179
vocatus_gate wrote: post #163

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How??? I've never understood how people can have that many tabs open and it be useful at all. At that point the information overload is too much. I have at most 10 open, and close them as I'm done with them. Helps reduce cognitive load.

Also looking up what you want when you have dozens / hundreds of tabs open is no better than going through your history browsing history. In fact going through your browsing history may be faster because you can actually use key words to search for what you want. I have 2-3 tabs open most of the time. If I am looking something up, I go to 10-12. When I am done, it goes back down to 2-3. I can't even fathom under what…

I usually max out at around 50. Today I got to 40, by reading several articles in the morning, and then starting a programming project in the afternoon. And the project included several unfamiliar topics, and I opened multiple tabs for some Google searches because not every website has the same take on the matter.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by frakr »

nevi-me wrote: post #169
huntie wrote: post #39

I'm really glad that people at Mozilla use ridiculous numbers of tabs too. Lazy-loading of tabs is the reason I switched to firefox. I'm not sure if it's still this way, but Chrome used to load every tab on startup. So even if you only had 100 tabs, you were looking at 5+ minute startup time. God-forbid that any of them were Youtube, or you'd have to go through and pause them all. I've just updated to Firefox 55 to t…

Chrome has supported lazy loading for a while now. I unfortunately can't find this reference, but I remember it being announced as part of release notes many months ago. I have the problem of moving a tab to a new window, and then 15 minutes later I have 15 tabs open. So I often have a few Chrome windows open at any point. If I restart Chrome, only the focused tabs on each window are loaded.

How do I enable that? I can't find it anywhere.

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by mconley »

ledgerdev wrote: post #78

I would love get rid of chrome and to switch back to firefox as my everyday browser, but simply can't get over how messy/ugly the tabs(even in compact theme) and window title look compared to what chrome does with tabs and title bar, and lack of window title bar.

If you enter customize mode, you can:

1) Choose one of the compact themes, which have square tabs instead of curved

and

2) Re-enable the title bar

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by magoon »

atombender wrote: post #233
elorant wrote: post #162

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So even if you only had 100 tabs This is fucking surreal. Why on Earth would anyone want 100 open tabs, besides testing? What's the real life scenario we're looking at here?

I wish tabs/windows worked more like persistent "workspaces". For example, say I'm booking a trip. I always open a bunch of sites (Kayak, Booking.com, lots of hotels, Google Maps, places to visit, etc.) in a single window. In pre-computer times it would be like covering a desk with a ton of papers, books and notes. Gradually I will figure out stuff, book the trip, etc. but the tabs can stay for quite a while. I feel…

Can you just open a new window as a "workspace" and have tabs within that window?

Re: The New Firefox and Ridiculous Numbers of Tabs

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Post by Manishearth »

kenrick95 wrote: post #263
joonoro wrote: post #243

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Firefox used to have this feature, but it was removed. You need to install this extension now: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-groups-pa...

Unfortunately, this extension, too will soon die when Firefox no longer supports legacy addons. I think there is a new Firefox experiment that behaves somewhat like this: https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/containers

IIRC https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-groups/?s... is a replacement

Container tabs is totally different, that's about basically having multiple profiles in one window. E.g you can have the work container logged into your work email and work stuff, and your personal container logged in to your personal email and personal stuff, and they don't know about each other. Like incognito, but persistent and within the same window.

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