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$4k Renault compared to Tesla Model 3

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Re: $4k Renault compared to Tesla Model 3

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Seems like a bad comparison to a Tesla then, no? Nothing but click bait.

The article is arguing that the $4k Renault is as disruptive in India as the Tesla is in the US. That seems like a reasonable claim.

Tata Nano ($1600 equivalent) didn't disrupt a thing, why would this?

Re: $4k Renault compared to Tesla Model 3

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Do you imagine this is different in any other part of the world? In the West, if you run someone down and even kill them, you will often escape any serious penalty.

What constitutes a "serious penalty" is a function of who you are, how much money you have and who's judging. You and I can probably escape "serious" consequences but most people cannot.

I believe all that is already assumed and known by all talking. I assumed people reading also already know that.

Re: $4k Renault compared to Tesla Model 3

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I imagine if they could make a $4k car that's as safe as what you find in the US and Europe they would be sold in the US and Europe.

I have a hard time imagining that 6k of the remaining cost (a basic car in the US can be had at $10k) would be because of a decent safety standard. I am curious to know how much more than $4k this Renault would be if they had spent a little time designing a safer passenger cell.

Don't airbag alone cost 1k each? Also steel anti intrusion bars costs, increase weight, which requires a larger engine etc.

Re: $4k Renault compared to Tesla Model 3

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did anyone let a robot try its luck on an urban street in india yet? looking forward to see how that works out... for sure it will need another mode that is more agressive to not just get stuck.

Hmm. If the pedestrians know they're not engaged in a dominance game with an aggressive human driver, they might actually be more likely to get out of the way.

Why? We don't know what'll happen, but if you know an automated car will stop for you even if you're in the wrong, then why not go for it if you're already in an environment and culture with aggressive pedestrians and drivers.

Re: $4k Renault compared to Tesla Model 3

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Hmm. If the pedestrians know they're not engaged in a dominance game with an aggressive human driver, they might actually be more likely to get out of the way.

Why? We don't know what'll happen, but if you know an automated car will stop for you even if you're in the wrong, then why not go for it if you're already in an environment and culture with aggressive pedestrians and drivers.

Because you'll be more likely to feel sorry for the driver, and less likely to feel defensive.

It will be no more socially acceptable to jaywalk in front of an autonomous car than it would be to cut in line. (And yes, I know, line-cutting is rampant in China... but in India?)

Re: $4k Renault compared to Tesla Model 3

#176
To say that this is unsafe is incorrect. It would be unsafe in the west compared to other cars, but in India compared to other cars and motorbikes that riders have as an option the Renault actually INCREASES safety dramatically

Re: $4k Renault compared to Tesla Model 3

#177
Kinda off-topic: I own a Renault Zoe, which is an EV hatchback that you can get second-hand for about £4k, and also a Tesla Model X 90D.

People get far too excited by Tesla's brand, when there are really competitive EVs out there.

Feel free to AMA about EVs or how mine compare.

Re: $4k Renault compared to Tesla Model 3

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All moped drivers in cities wear helmets, only the passengers don't

What? This definitely is not true in the United States. In Michigan, both the driver and passenger are required to wear a helmet on a motorcycle unless they have special medical insurance -- as far as I know, mopeds do not have the same requirement and it is very evident if you spend any time in our cities. Having a slower vehicle doesn't always mean safer, despite contrary belief -- I can get out of the way of a car…

In India

Re: $4k Renault compared to Tesla Model 3

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One of the reasons why the Renault Kwid is $4000 is because, well, it uses cheap materials, and with that comes a very bad safety rating. This is enabled by India's nearly non-existent car safety regulations. Everything has a "price".

A car is a tool that a poor family can use to multiply their effectiveness and pull themselves out of poverty. Lots of people are willing to gamble their safety for the chance.

edit: plus, it can hardly be worse than 6 children in a moped... http://www.nydailynews.com/news/overloaded-vehicles-gallery-...

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