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I believe that this also applies, to a very long extend, to open source projects. Both the ones having companies with financial interests and even the ones without such a direct profitability interest. So, once a given OSS starts to be popular, suddenly, all the use cases must be covered, despite the fact that there are, often, obvious design tensions. What happens is: complexity, lack of focus, and ultimately even t…

best modern example of this realization is krita. it was a so-so graphics editor. they focused on digital painting and it is leaps and bounds better because of the focus.

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Am I the only person sick of DHH and the 37 Signals people writing the same article 800 times? We get it. You don't have to raise VC or grow exponentially to have a great company. They have seriously written the same thing hundreds of times in hundreds of different ways, and it's barely even a contrarian view anymore. I hear as many people saying, "I wish more people would talk about how you don't have to raise VC" a…

I've actually long been tired of the whole survivorship bias-based advice industry/PR technique.

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post #2

I believe that this also applies, to a very long extend, to open source projects. Both the ones having companies with financial interests and even the ones without such a direct profitability interest. So, once a given OSS starts to be popular, suddenly, all the use cases must be covered, despite the fact that there are, often, obvious design tensions. What happens is: complexity, lack of focus, and ultimately even t…

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#54
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what I feel when I see people complain that developer salaries have an upper limit in the mid 100s. I mean, I kinda get it, but honestly $100k is more than enough for me, let alone $150k.

It's a scaling issue. If I'm being paid $100k to generate $200k worth of value, fair enough. If I'm being paid $120k to generate $2 million worth of value, that starts to seem unfair.

It's only unfair if someone else is willing to pay you more in order to generate that 2 million OR if no one else is willing to generate that 2 million for 120k. In that case, switch jobs. I find that programmers often overestimate their value.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what I feel when I see people complain that developer salaries have an upper limit in the mid 100s. I mean, I kinda get it, but honestly $100k is more than enough for me, let alone $150k.

100k is enough to live on, but when you get more than that you start to see the potential of civic engagement, of funding causes you believe in. And if your work contributes millions of dollars to the company's bottom line, what justice is there in the company giving 99.9% of the surplus of the surplus you generate to upper management's bonus, or the fund that gets inside info on your next quarterly report? There are…

If you are so efficient at generating millions of dollars all on your own maybe just go into business yourself.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what I feel when I see people complain that developer salaries have an upper limit in the mid 100s. I mean, I kinda get it, but honestly $100k is more than enough for me, let alone $150k.

100k is enough to live on, but when you get more than that you start to see the potential of civic engagement, of funding causes you believe in. And if your work contributes millions of dollars to the company's bottom line, what justice is there in the company giving 99.9% of the surplus of the surplus you generate to upper management's bonus, or the fund that gets inside info on your next quarterly report? There are…

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#57

Am I the only person sick of DHH and the 37 Signals people writing the same article 800 times? We get it. You don't have to raise VC or grow exponentially to have a great company. They have seriously written the same thing hundreds of times in hundreds of different ways, and it's barely even a contrarian view anymore. I hear as many people saying, "I wish more people would talk about how you don't have to raise VC" a…

I find that when I repeat the same argument, I'm actually trying to convince myself. He is intellectually convinced he is doing the right thing, but the emotional pull of peer pressure is strong.

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#59
post #6

This mindset applies to many things besides growth. For example, how much money (as an annual income) is enough for you? Have you ever sat down and reasoned it out? I see many people stuck chasing larger and larger payouts, to the extent it makes them unhappy or even unwell, who never stopped to consider how much money was enough.

This is what I feel when I see people complain that developer salaries have an upper limit in the mid 100s. I mean, I kinda get it, but honestly $100k is more than enough for me, let alone $150k.

My feeling is that I may be able to take my talents elsewhere (even to my own company) and make a competing (or even completely different) product and take home a bigger slice, so you better make it worthwhile for me to stay at your company if you want those talents. I happen to work for a company that pays significantly higher that $150k, so it's not an issue at the moment, but it's always in the back of my mind.

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#60
post #20

DHH's writing sort of radiates a sense of superiority.

Yeah, he has a decent point but someone commissioning custom super cars isn't in the best position to make it.

That's also what I find most irksome about DHH.

"Hey guys, don't get too rich please — just look at me and my millionaire lifestyle and enjoy."

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