TLDR DHH publicly rationalizes his own mediocrity using various flawed arguments.
A troll anonymously feels hurt that the universality of their goal of becoming the biggest asshole is being questioned.
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#12The whole piece is a bit verbose, but the writer has a point. A lot of people are never satisfied, and that doesn't make the world a better place. The irony is unsatisfaction is rewarded. You can earn millions of dollars with making the world less beautifull, by selling people bad loanes or artificially keeping medicine prices high. I don't know if people can learn to have enough, or 'the system' must enforce it a li…
"rewarded" by the market. Let's not confuse extrinsic reward ($$$) within intrinsic reward, which is living the life you want to live.
The equating of money and utility (in the economic sense) happens very quickly in micro economics 101, and then you spend the rest of the class speaking about money. But that is just because utility is very hard to track or reason about.
Plenty of folks living good lives without being flashy about it.
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#13The whole piece is a bit verbose, but the writer has a point. A lot of people are never satisfied, and that doesn't make the world a better place. The irony is unsatisfaction is rewarded. You can earn millions of dollars with making the world less beautifull, by selling people bad loanes or artificially keeping medicine prices high. I don't know if people can learn to have enough, or 'the system' must enforce it a li…
Satisfaction or non-satisfaction is totally orthogonal to whether the world is a "better" place or not. Lots of examples of people who were never satisfied who made the world a better place, e.g. Steve Jobs.
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#14TLDR DHH publicly rationalizes his own mediocrity using various flawed arguments.
A troll anonymously feels hurt that the universality of their goal of becoming the biggest asshole is being questioned.
Jnsaff feels hurt that their even more universal and mainstream goal of being irrelevant and mediocre is being questioned.
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#15This mindset applies to many things besides growth. For example, how much money (as an annual income) is enough for you? Have you ever sat down and reasoned it out? I see many people stuck chasing larger and larger payouts, to the extent it makes them unhappy or even unwell, who never stopped to consider how much money was enough.
This is what I feel when I see people complain that developer salaries have an upper limit in the mid 100s.
I mean, I kinda get it, but honestly $100k is more than enough for me, let alone $150k.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
> using various flawed arguments Care to offer some counter arguments?
His initial argument is that it's okay to be mediocre because continuous success is just a "paradigm." That much was already clear. His argument falls apart when he tries to justify having enough, since that contradicts his initial argument. If continuous success isn't written in stone, then neither is having enough. Nokia's anecdotal demise isn't a reason to not seek continuous success. In fact, one could use that s…
If continuous success isn't written in stone, then neither is having enough.
Do you know what "contradict" means? Because that in no way contradicts his point that there are many paths, of which continuous growth is only one.
Nokia's anecdotal demise isn't a reason to not seek continuous success.
He didn't claim it was.
Distance between a founder and the product isn't an argument for not seeking continuous success. Some people prefer that distance and consider separation of labor to be more efficient.
Which is what he said. "Now some people clearly like that."
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#17DHH's writing sort of radiates a sense of superiority.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
If DHH reps mediocrity in your mind I'd love to see your list of those who you consider successful.
Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos, Sergey Brin, Larry Page, Drew Houston, Travis Kalanick... The list goes on.
Seriously?
Gates, OK, I may agree with him, due to the amount of charity he's doing, but the rest? Elon Musk is still a big question mark (see Tesla vs tinkering), the others... Why not put Marissa Mayer on the list, she made a lof of money as well.
I'd rather see a list of people like RMS, even though he's quite mad, he actually made the word a better place.
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#19The whole piece is a bit verbose, but the writer has a point. A lot of people are never satisfied, and that doesn't make the world a better place. The irony is unsatisfaction is rewarded. You can earn millions of dollars with making the world less beautifull, by selling people bad loanes or artificially keeping medicine prices high. I don't know if people can learn to have enough, or 'the system' must enforce it a li…
A lot of people are never satisfied, and that doesn't make the world a better place.
A lack of satisfaction can also materialize in positive ways that do improve the world. This drive is innately human and is what led us to agriculture, medicine, technology, and to wherever else we're going to go.
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#20DHH's writing sort of radiates a sense of superiority.
Yeah, he has a decent point but someone commissioning custom super cars isn't in the best position to make it.