So each search result could have had this carousel.
Google's response to the European Commission fine
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Re: Google's response to the European Commission fine
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, like that pesky Netscape that totally screwed over MS and almost stopped the golden age of web browsers between 2001 and 2006. /s
Hey, I had a 'best viewed with any browser' icon on my sites at the time (in fact http://dougal.sourceforge.net/ still boasts one ...). Doesn't alter the fact that Netscape was incapable of competing with Microsoft (in fact I think you sort of made my point, there) once the latter got their arses into gear. Edited : Wow! The "Viewable With Any Browser" campaign site is still up, in 2017. I wonder if they're keeping i…
No-one will ever know.
Re: Google's response to the European Commission fine
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hey, I had a 'best viewed with any browser' icon on my sites at the time (in fact http://dougal.sourceforge.net/ still boasts one ...). Doesn't alter the fact that Netscape was incapable of competing with Microsoft (in fact I think you sort of made my point, there) once the latter got their arses into gear. Edited : Wow! The "Viewable With Any Browser" campaign site is still up, in 2017. I wonder if they're keeping i…
Were they? If it hadn't been bundled for free, what would have happened? No-one will ever know.
Perhaps we're meaning different things by the word 'compete'?
Re: Google's response to the European Commission fine
#104Re: Google's response to the European Commission fine
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
GP wasn't complaining about product issues (which were discussed in the other thread), but about the doublespeak used in Google's response.
Doesn't doublespeak imply a self-contradiction? At any rate, I thought the OP was complaining about "spin", in which case the reply is valid, as it isn't spin; there's just multiple valid ways of interpreting Google's behaviors, and which interpretation you choose depends largely on how satisfied you are with their business model.
"Not to be confused with Double-talk.
Doublespeak is language that deliberately obscures, disguises, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words."
Re: Google's response to the European Commission fine
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
In return EU have healthy job market with ~40hr work week and proper healthcare. Most of EU companies are not trying to keep me as developer in a golden cage, offering me everything so I wouldn't have to go home anymore. There are many healthy business hubs here in Europe (London, Cardiff-Bristol-Bath, Berlin and many others), maybe they do not have that superstar status as SV but they are still good places to be. So…
From what I've seen, salaries in EU tech hubs are significantly lower than in provincial markets in the US - where weeks are close to 40 hours and managers would laugh at paying for lunch or putting in cots so you can spend the night. Most Americans don't work in the tech hubs, yet still earn significantly more on average. FYI, anyone with a decent job in the US has access to some of the best health care in the world…
Re: Google's response to the European Commission fine
#107Really Google? I personally remember the advent of adsense and their initial ultra simple text-only ads being a huge revolution in advertising as a whole and a huge improvement in user friendliness. Now it's suddenly better to have images and extra stuff thrown in there.
Pretty soon, it will be even better to have some animated and interactive simians in them.
Re: Google's response to the European Commission fine
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's weird that someone commenting here never read corporate PR before, I guess it's not any weirder than the proliferation of anti capitalist sentiment in a startup incubator community section. Still it's not nearly as nonsensical as this case in which a website operator is being fined billions for not featuring other website some more.
> It's weird that someone commenting here never read corporate PR before You seem to confuse having never read PR releases with still being outraged by their BS. Something being familiar doesn't make it right -- or means that only people that have never seen it would ever be enraged by it. For pointing out "nonsensical" stuff this was a very nonsensical argument. Not even wrong.
You seem to confuse having valid concerns vs. making assumptions.
Calling a PR release BS without any fact is illogical at best and intellectually dishonest at worst.
Google wants to give the best search results possible, and it obviously has hooks into it's own shopping database that allow it to show targeted results.
A logical conclusion would be to force Google to open up its API, so that internal customers and external customers would be competing on the same playing field, rather than just complaining about search result orders.
Re: Google's response to the European Commission fine
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Much like the US fines EU banks?
Are the fines comparable? Why do they get fined?
BNP, a french bank, was fined 8.9 B$ for operations run outside the US but with countries on which the US had an embargo.
Re: Google's response to the European Commission fine
#110> (...) connecting our users with thousands of advertisers, large and small, in ways that are useful for both . We truly live in the age of spinning, of euphemisms, where words lose all their meaning. All-pervasive advertising, the most insidious technique of consumer capitalism, is now an idealistic connecting of people (why, rather than fining us indeed they should be thanking thanking us for that, they seem to say…
I'd encourage you (and everyone) to read the comments in the other thread happening today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14643712 You'll see people baffled by this decision and generally happy with the service and products google offers. It's just a reminder to remember that what doesn't work for you may be pure bliss for other people.