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Re: Google's response to the European Commission fine

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Post by hoorayimhelping »

andrepd wrote: post #14

> (...) connecting our users with thousands of advertisers, large and small, in ways that are useful for both . We truly live in the age of spinning, of euphemisms, where words lose all their meaning. All-pervasive advertising, the most insidious technique of consumer capitalism, is now an idealistic connecting of people (why, rather than fining us indeed they should be thanking thanking us for that, they seem to say…

I'd encourage you (and everyone) to read the comments in the other thread happening today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14643712

You'll see people baffled by this decision and generally happy with the service and products google offers.

It's just a reminder to remember that what doesn't work for you may be pure bliss for other people.

Re: Google's response to the European Commission fine

#42

Post by merpnderp »

8draco8 wrote: post #8
pdog wrote: post #3

European commissioners should read a couple of Paul Graham's essays. No wonder the EU doesn't have the equivalent of a Silicon Valley. "How to Be Silicon Valley": http://www.paulgraham.com/siliconvalley.html "Why Startups Condense In America": http://www.paulgraham.com/america.html

In return EU have healthy job market with ~40hr work week and proper healthcare. Most of EU companies are not trying to keep me as developer in a golden cage, offering me everything so I wouldn't have to go home anymore. There are many healthy business hubs here in Europe (London, Cardiff-Bristol-Bath, Berlin and many others), maybe they do not have that superstar status as SV but they are still good places to be. So…

From what I've seen, salaries in EU tech hubs are significantly lower than in provincial markets in the US - where weeks are close to 40 hours and managers would laugh at paying for lunch or putting in cots so you can spend the night. Most Americans don't work in the tech hubs, yet still earn significantly more on average. FYI, anyone with a decent job in the US has access to some of the best health care in the world. The US with a far more diverse and unwell population has better outcomes for the cardiovascular diseases and cancer.

Re: Google's response to the European Commission fine

#43

Post by [deleted] »

Jyaif wrote: post #27
8draco8 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In return EU have healthy job market with ~40hr work week and proper healthcare. Most of EU companies are not trying to keep me as developer in a golden cage, offering me everything so I wouldn't have to go home anymore. There are many healthy business hubs here in Europe (London, Cardiff-Bristol-Bath, Berlin and many others), maybe they do not have that superstar status as SV but they are still good places to be. So…

> have healthy job market Reminder: the EU's unemployment rate is twice as high as the US'.

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Re: Google's response to the European Commission fine

#44

Post by wutwutwutwut »

Jyaif wrote: post #27
8draco8 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In return EU have healthy job market with ~40hr work week and proper healthcare. Most of EU companies are not trying to keep me as developer in a golden cage, offering me everything so I wouldn't have to go home anymore. There are many healthy business hubs here in Europe (London, Cardiff-Bristol-Bath, Berlin and many others), maybe they do not have that superstar status as SV but they are still good places to be. So…

> have healthy job market Reminder: the EU's unemployment rate is twice as high as the US'.

Do you include jobs which does not pay a livable wage in that comparison?

Re: Google's response to the European Commission fine

#45

Post by TeMPOraL »

Jyaif wrote: post #27
8draco8 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In return EU have healthy job market with ~40hr work week and proper healthcare. Most of EU companies are not trying to keep me as developer in a golden cage, offering me everything so I wouldn't have to go home anymore. There are many healthy business hubs here in Europe (London, Cardiff-Bristol-Bath, Berlin and many others), maybe they do not have that superstar status as SV but they are still good places to be. So…

> have healthy job market Reminder: the EU's unemployment rate is twice as high as the US'.

Maybe because being unemployed in EU is much less dangerous than in the US?

Re: Google's response to the European Commission fine

#46

Post by walterstucco »

hoorayimhelping wrote: post #41
andrepd wrote: post #14

> (...) connecting our users with thousands of advertisers, large and small, in ways that are useful for both . We truly live in the age of spinning, of euphemisms, where words lose all their meaning. All-pervasive advertising, the most insidious technique of consumer capitalism, is now an idealistic connecting of people (why, rather than fining us indeed they should be thanking thanking us for that, they seem to say…

I'd encourage you (and everyone) to read the comments in the other thread happening today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14643712 You'll see people baffled by this decision and generally happy with the service and products google offers. It's just a reminder to remember that what doesn't work for you may be pure bliss for other people.

Mob in Italy is pure bliss for a lot of people.

It's still a bad thing.

Re: Google's response to the European Commission fine

#48

Post by _Codemonkeyism »

hoorayimhelping wrote: post #41
andrepd wrote: post #14

> (...) connecting our users with thousands of advertisers, large and small, in ways that are useful for both . We truly live in the age of spinning, of euphemisms, where words lose all their meaning. All-pervasive advertising, the most insidious technique of consumer capitalism, is now an idealistic connecting of people (why, rather than fining us indeed they should be thanking thanking us for that, they seem to say…

I'd encourage you (and everyone) to read the comments in the other thread happening today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14643712 You'll see people baffled by this decision and generally happy with the service and products google offers. It's just a reminder to remember that what doesn't work for you may be pure bliss for other people.

You seem to have replied to the wrong comment.

I've read through the other thread, I couldn't find a comment that agrees with "connecting our users with thousands of advertisers, large and small, in ways that are useful for both."

Re: Google's response to the European Commission fine

#49

Post by kome »

andrepd wrote: post #14

> (...) connecting our users with thousands of advertisers, large and small, in ways that are useful for both . We truly live in the age of spinning, of euphemisms, where words lose all their meaning. All-pervasive advertising, the most insidious technique of consumer capitalism, is now an idealistic connecting of people (why, rather than fining us indeed they should be thanking thanking us for that, they seem to say…

ahahah! it's heartwarming that the first comment on HN is this one! Thank you, andrepd. Finally something different from the HN crowds of liberals, libertarians, corporate apologists and tech fanboys. I had the same feeling when I read that line "connecting our users with thousands of advertisers, large and small, in ways that are useful for both" ahaha, bugger off, google.

Re: Google's response to the European Commission fine

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Post by matthewmacleod »

perseusprime11 wrote: post #39

I hope Trump fines EU for all these non-sense fines they impose on American companies. Feels like EU is trying to compensate for their high debt.

This is not a valid complaint. Fining companies for breaking competition law is totally legitimate.
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