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My Uber driver robbed me, so I took Uber to court and won

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Re: My Uber driver robbed me, so I took Uber to court and won

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post #25

Interesting story, but I think it was a bit unfair to Uber. I'm glad this guy was made whole, but I'm not sure Uber's reluctance to paying you 4000 dollars because a driver stole your backpack qualifies as corruption. From what I can tell, the worst thing Uber did was not be sufficiently cooperative with the police investigation. This part of the narrative is extremely muddled and unclear, so it's hard to take a stro…

FTA: What Uber told the police. "The Uber department responded that they had no record of a trip from the vehicle with that license plate on December 5th, 2016, just after 11 PM, and the driver had not driven with them for 2 years." "Sufficiently cooperative" (per you) and outright lying are two very different things. FTA: "Why would Uber not have the information on the driver for the police? Uber asserted that they…

I'm saying the article is muddled and unclear, not Uber.

> "The Uber department responded that they had no record of a trip from the vehicle with that license plate on December 5th, 2016, just after 11 PM, and the driver had not driven with them for 2 years."

How do we know this is a lie? It could be true due to driver fraud (driving a different car than the one they have registered with Uber). Or it could have been some kind of mixup on their support team.

> Uhhh... what? It violates privacy? Your either complying with the police or you aren't. "There was no warrant" would have been an OK answer, but that wasn't what they said.

"It violates privacy" and "there was no warrant" aren't mutually exclusive, feels like you're splitting hairs here. If a request violates privacy, that's a good reason to ask for a warrant.

Also, you left out this confusing paragraph:

"It was later asserted that they reached out to the police detective to clear this up. They found the information and tried to contact the detective with all the information. If you are curious as to when this happened, it was April 9th. Uber did everything in their power to make the investigation successful and cooperate with the detective, on April 9th, 2017, four months after the incident. They also only reached out to the detective with the correct information once they were caught obstructing the investigation."

It's still unclear to me how exactly Uber obstructed the investigation but maybe my reading comprehension is lacking.

Re: My Uber driver robbed me, so I took Uber to court and won

#133
post #107

Ultimately, Uber did not want to establish a precedent for liability. What they should have done is settled for $4,000 and forced the victim to sign an NDA, ensuring that this little conflict remained private. Instead, in usual Uber fashion, the legal and HR team worked their magic and created a lose-lose-lose situation for themselves: 1. They established precedent for liability; 2. They obstructed justice, which cou…

I don't believe ruling before a magistrate judge in small claims court create precedent in a legal sense, though if you just mean it will inspire others to do the same, agreed.

Re: My Uber driver robbed me, so I took Uber to court and won

#134
post #24

before uber, I don't think I've ever rooted for a company to fail

Travis is walking away as a multi-million dollar man. This is whether you root for Uber or not.

What does that have to do with this though?

Plenty of rich people aren't nice.

Re: My Uber driver robbed me, so I took Uber to court and won

#135

I'm glad this worked out for the OP. However, I think he may have made a couple mistakes that could have been avoided for a smoother process. The big one is not retaining an attorney. No, he doesn't have to for small claims court, but Uber clearly had its legal team looking at this. Now, I understand that lawyers are expensive and carry their own issues - but if he'd won the case with an attorney, he could potentiall…

How would retaining an attorney work in small claims?

Well, an attorney might suggest they not use words like robbery. Robbery is defined, as a legal term. This is just simple theft. Robbery requires force, implied force, or fear.

It's going to suck if this guy gets sued for libel.

Theft is often a misdemeanor where robbery is often a felony. They are pretty different things, legally speaking.

Re: My Uber driver robbed me, so I took Uber to court and won

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"I just didn’t buy that a company could just get away with that business model. Hire anyone with a car, facilitate everything, and have no responsibility for what happens in the cars." If I got food sick from something I ordered off GrubHub could I sue them?

I'm curious how far this line goes, too. If I go to Subway and a worker stabs me, does Subway owe me millions? I'm really confused how Uber is responsible here.. it just seems, odd, to me. Now, if Uber as a company promoted (in one way or another) reckless speeding for the sake of fast drop-offs, and I get hit by an Uber driver, yes I think Uber is at fault (and the driver) . However, why does it sound like Uber is r…

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Re: My Uber driver robbed me, so I took Uber to court and won

#137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The guy only got $4K. Retaining a lawyer for just that amount wouldn't be worth it, would it? I have no clue how small claims works and how likely it is to have attorney fees be included if you win like you mentioned. The guy had to fly back to Boston again for the second time around. He'd also likely have spent some money in Boston like getting around. None of that was included in the final amount either. I'm not su…

> The guy only got $4K. Retaining a lawyer for just that amount wouldn't be worth it, would it? I have no clue how small claims works and how likely it is to have attorney fees be included if you win like you mentioned. The guy had to fly back to Boston again for the second time around. He'd also likely have spent some money in Boston like getting around. None of that was included in the final amount either. I'm not…

I agree that representation would be better, but in reality, a D- 4/10 lawyer would still be too expensive to be worth it here.

Re: My Uber driver robbed me, so I took Uber to court and won

#138
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually because I use NoScript, nothing at all shows up when I visit that URL. Empty white page. Defective site design.

"I block HTML and your site doesnt load for me, defective site!" I know JS isnt HTML, but at this point, it basically is. Complaining that a site is broken because you choose to break it is just astounding.

That's not why the site is broken if you're using uBlock/NoScript. It's broken because it loads everything (even the text of the site) from 3rd party domains and scripts.

Re: My Uber driver robbed me, so I took Uber to court and won

#139

I'm glad this worked out for the OP. However, I think he may have made a couple mistakes that could have been avoided for a smoother process. The big one is not retaining an attorney. No, he doesn't have to for small claims court, but Uber clearly had its legal team looking at this. Now, I understand that lawyers are expensive and carry their own issues - but if he'd won the case with an attorney, he could potentiall…

I called several attorney offices for a small claim court case (max $2k in that particular state iirc) and they laughed at me.

It's true that in small claims you often don't need one to represent you in the actual proceeding - and many lawyers, especially fairly "big" ones, would have no interest. However, retaining one to advise you on how to navigate the process, how to phrase your arguments, how to communicate with the opposing party, etc., is probably valuable even if they aren't running the case for you directly.

Re: My Uber driver robbed me, so I took Uber to court and won

#140
post #38

Note to self, "leave doors/trunks open UNTIL I am positive all my luggages are out of the car."

Given that the driver did this intentionally, is there anything preventing the driver from taking off with an open trunk? Hell, from the video footage in this article, even an open door wouldn't have done much. He could easily drive a block in a residential area with an open door and then pull over and quickly close the door.
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