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Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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Post by refurb »

joezydeco wrote: post #129
eli wrote: post #101

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> That Wal-Mart is powerful enough to dictate the internal business practice and tech decisions of it's vendor. Wal-Mart is pretty infamous for squeezing suppliers & vendors on price and operating procedures. Hard.

"It also is not unheard of for Wal-Mart to demand to examine the private financial records of a supplier, and to insist that its margins are too high and must be cut." https://www.fastcompany.com/47593/wal-mart-you-dont-know

Suppliers are free to tell Walmart to stuff it.

Re: Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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Post by KirinDave »

gaius wrote: post #160
KirinDave wrote: post #115

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> I've never heard of conglomerates being broken up, as long as they didn't have too much share of any single market. Maybe that should change. But... even if we take it at face value... Name a company in the world that is competing at scale and cost with AWS. In the US, Amazon is definitely nowhere near suffering a loss of customers from Google and Microsoft's offerings. and they're securing massive contracts with k…

Name a company in the world that is competing at scale and cost with AWS. Azure has more locations, and is better than AWS is several areas.

Azure is a better service imho, but is it actually succeeding? I'd argue it is not, yet.

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Post by throwawaymanbot »

devmunchies wrote: post #164
23david wrote: post #117

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It's not paranoia. An ex-Amazon manager told me fairly recently that they look at customer performance data (trends etc) when evaluating future business opportunities. So once you start getting traction and customers, there's some internal product manager evaluating whether it's worth entering your market.

Is this for real? Thats terrible.

It is undeniably terrible, But welcome to fortune 500 business practices. In this world you are seen as weak if you DONT do these things.

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Post by swiley »

bubblethink wrote: post #165
Ntrails wrote: post #146

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Didn't they stop stocking those things because they wouldn't run Amazon Prime by defaults or something?

Amazon decided to fork Android, and create fire phone, their own app store, and a bunch of other attempts at cutting Google out. They decided to not support other streamers because they again launched their own stick. So instead of explaining to customers, or dealing with returns, about why they can't play amazon content on chromecast, they just banned chromecast from the store. And to emphasize, it's not about not s…

I'd just like to point out, Amazon forking android is probably a good thing.

You wouldn't be able to run quite a few apps like tinder without google play if it weren't for what amazon did.

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Post by cholantesh »

KirinDave wrote: post #119
cholantesh wrote: post #109

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>Amazon is a massive immoral monster devouring the US economy and replacing it with something vaguely worse, year by year Hasn't the same thing been said about Walmart?

Yes. And I'd agree. To wax metaphorical, I'd rather the monsters devour each other while we race for a super-weapon to defeat all monsters and protect real people. This situation where corporations are effectively replacing the state is not exactly what I had in mind when I said the world would be a better place with a diminished role of the State in individual life.

I like the term empath75 uses to describe this situation - 'corporate feudalism', because it really does feel like lords battling for power and influence, while an increasingly impotent state looks on doing little more than wagging its finger.

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Post by Kocrachon »

mschuster91 wrote: post #171
Analemma_ wrote: post #167

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Amazon does exactly the same thing though: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/02/17/cheap-words (focusing specifically on books, but they do it across all sectors)

When companies are able to do this, they should be broken up, period. Unfortunately we are in a system that's essentially the worst of capitalism with none of the good (and especially not with regulations), so there is no hope left and more jobs will migrate to China. That's what Trump should tackle if he wants to stop job migration, but it seems like he's focused on anything but regulating BigCos.

Amazon has been forcing cheaper books back when it was mainly a book store. What do you do about something like that?

Back when Barnes and Noble was the big book store, same thing, they pressured better prices. What do you do, split up the book store into two companies, who still control the same market share and will both still put pressure on the book companies?

Last I read, Amazon mainly fights for cheaper kindle prices, because it's considerably cheaper to sell a 12 meg file than a 200 page physical book. Which I agree with publishers, only benefits Amazon and not entirely fair, but for the most part, not much ahs changed, most kindle copies are MAYBE a dollar less.

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Post by LoSboccacc »

MadcapJake wrote: post #166
bedhead wrote: post #156

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This kind of hyperbole is absolutely and demonstrably absurd. What a disgrace that this is the top comment.

> demonstrably absurd Please do demonstrate how it is absurd.

> Amazon is a massive immoral monster

this should be enough

> devouring the US economy and replacing it with something vaguely worse, year by year.

Luddites repeat: automation, price reduction and job shifting isn't bad for the economy and it isn't worse either

> It's rapidly approaching a "too big to be allowed to fail" status, and that's awful for Americans.

Completely unsubstantiated. Surely it's one of the larger employees, but compared to automotive there are few satellites that lives because of the induced workload - if Ford closes, all subsidiaries and most vendor will close with it; if Amazon closes, the impact will be more limited.

> Since anti-trust laws weren't written by a generation able to envison entities like this

This is incredibly short sighted, since those were written at Rockefeller peak. Entities larger than this and more looming where at the order of the day, while Amazon has a load competitors and alternatives to fend off.

> the current political climate is that they'd rather die than appear anti-business...

This political climate endured for most USA history, with shortly timed bouts into centrism, hardly something current, hardly something that slowed down the USA economic growth. cfr - Europe.

> I guess the only entities with the power to push back against Amazon are in fact the other major corporate vendors.

That's ok tho, as in not a bad thing

All in all the whole claim is conflated hyperbole that's filtered by an unhistorical view of the current situation

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Post by smt88 »

KirinDave wrote: post #182
gaius wrote: post #160

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Name a company in the world that is competing at scale and cost with AWS. Azure has more locations, and is better than AWS is several areas.

Azure is a better service imho, but is it actually succeeding? I'd argue it is not, yet.

https://venturebeat.com/2017/02/17/microsoft-azure-revenue-r...
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