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Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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Snapper mowers. https://www.fastcompany.com/54763/man-who-said-no-wal-mart

Interesting read, though it would appear that's no longer the case: https://www.walmart.com/search/?query=Snapper&cat_id=5428_11...

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Re: Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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Amazon Logistics is dreadful, a parcel may turn up at 8am, 1pm, 9pm or whenever they feel like it. As a consumer, where do I get it delivered to? Work? Home? If you don't want Prime (I have no use for it), it's now £20 minimum for free (Amazon Logistics) delivery. Price-wise they're not even that much cheaper in the UK

That's the best retort you've got? Sounds like Amazon is killing it.

Heh, it is amazing how perceptions change.

It wasn't all that long ago when you'd phone or email your order to the merchant (with credit card number!) or even send it in on paper, you'd be lucky to get any tracking number at all and still wouldn't know what day or even what week your order would be delivered on.

But now people get upset about a 12 hour delivery window.

Re: Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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If libertarians don't realize that the system they're advocating for is essentially corporate feudalism, they're suckers. I'd rather have a powerful government accountable to voters than a powerful corporate oligarchy that is only accountable to shareholders.

Re: Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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> “It shouldn’t be a big surprise that there are cases in which we’d prefer our most sensitive data isn’t sitting on a competitor’s platform,” Ok sounds reasonable from an information security standpoint > Snowflake Computing Inc., a data-warehousing service, was approached by a Wal-Mart client about handling its business from the retailer, Chief Executive Bob Muglia said. The catch: Snowflake had to run those servic…

Maybe Bob still holds a grudge: "Some have speculated that Muglia and Ballmer disagree about the development and future of Microsoft's cloud computing platform, Windows Azure, but no details are available. So for now, at least, the departure remains somewhat of a mystery --- as is the blunt way that Ballmer handled it." http://www.computerworld.com/article/2470214/social-business...

He sure has an unusual way of holding his grudge -- by porting his company's application to the company he holds the grudge against. With enemies like that, who needs friends?

Re: Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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Amazon does similar practises, like not selling Chromecast/apple TV etc on their site. Is this instance of AWS blockage a big deal? probably not. I wonder if it just slows down Walmarts efforts

Didn't they stop stocking those things because they wouldn't run Amazon Prime by defaults or something?

Re: Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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> “It shouldn’t be a big surprise that there are cases in which we’d prefer our most sensitive data isn’t sitting on a competitor’s platform,” Ok sounds reasonable from an information security standpoint > Snowflake Computing Inc., a data-warehousing service, was approached by a Wal-Mart client about handling its business from the retailer, Chief Executive Bob Muglia said. The catch: Snowflake had to run those servic…

I don't understand your confusion? Neither Snowflake Computing or Microsoft are competitors.

Re: Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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Amazon is a collection of individuals. It only takes a small number of employees to circumvent the best protocols.

I'm sorry but that's ridiculous to say. If you had enough knowledge about AWS security practices to assert that, you'd know not to say it.

If you want to address this to Wal-mart Corp it might be better. They made a decision about some vendors using AWS, and there might be a very good reason behind it in relation to the comment above this. There may also be be a snotty CEO decision behind it. Who really knows?

Re: Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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This is... Not the best? That Wal-Mart is powerful enough to dictate the internal business practice and tech decisions of it's vendor. On the other hand, Amazon is a massive immoral monster devouring the US economy and replacing it with something vaguely worse, year by year. It's rapidly approaching a "too big to be allowed to fail" status, and that's awful for Americans. Since anti-trust laws weren't written by a ge…

Wal-Mart is "powerful" but Amazon is "immoral"? Can you elaborate on how moral you think Wal-Mart is?

Also immoral. I didn't think I would be accused of a pro-Walmart stance in a post that lead off with "It is bad WM can do this."

Re: Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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I think it's harsh to call it extreme paranoia. I've heard that one of the reasons Amazon won't use Slack for its chat is because it isn't self-hosted. I'm sure many major companies won't use Gmail. I don't think Slack or Google have done anything that suggests they'd mine their platforms for corporate espionage. Slack isn't even in the same industry as Amazon. Is Amazon paranoid? According to the article, Walmart se…

Isn't Slack on AWS? So effectively it is self-hosted for them :) https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/slack/

But AWS can't control Slacks security practices.

AWS also has many compliance certifications (HIPAA, FedRAMP etc), sending data outside your organisation may be a no-go from a compliance perspective.

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