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Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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Re: Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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Post by eli »

KirinDave wrote: post #94

This is... Not the best? That Wal-Mart is powerful enough to dictate the internal business practice and tech decisions of it's vendor. On the other hand, Amazon is a massive immoral monster devouring the US economy and replacing it with something vaguely worse, year by year. It's rapidly approaching a "too big to be allowed to fail" status, and that's awful for Americans. Since anti-trust laws weren't written by a ge…

> That Wal-Mart is powerful enough to dictate the internal business practice and tech decisions of it's vendor.

Wal-Mart is pretty infamous for squeezing suppliers & vendors on price and operating procedures. Hard.

Re: Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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Post by retailtech »

I work in retailtech and this feeling is very common across retailers. Everyone feels like amazon is their biggest competitor and they don't want any of their money going (even indirectly) to amazon. Especially when the technology in question is supposed to help them compete better against amazon.

Re: Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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Post by betaby »

mtanski wrote: post #16
kennydude wrote: post #11

> “Tactics like this are bad for business and customers,” Because Amazon's tactics aren't bad for business or consumers?

Tu quoque, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque I'm not sure this quippy needs a reply ... but seriously, you should respond with more then a pure logical fallacy.

You committed fallacy of seeing fallacy. While I committed fallacy of pointing out to fallacy of seeing fallacy. Here you go https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy

Re: Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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Post by jandrese »

KirinDave wrote: post #94

This is... Not the best? That Wal-Mart is powerful enough to dictate the internal business practice and tech decisions of it's vendor. On the other hand, Amazon is a massive immoral monster devouring the US economy and replacing it with something vaguely worse, year by year. It's rapidly approaching a "too big to be allowed to fail" status, and that's awful for Americans. Since anti-trust laws weren't written by a ge…

It just seems kind of petty to me. One senses a bit of bitterness on the part of Wal*Mart over this decision.

Re: Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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Post by jbronn »

jessaustin wrote: post #74
ajarmst wrote: post #43

I know there's some complexity here, but let's just take a minute to marvel at the phenomena of Walmart complaining about another company's excessive dominance and potential to apply monopolistic power.

It is my custom to use Amazon gift certificates at Coinstar machines to dispose of my extra coins, because in that case the coins are exchanged for free. (I have many extra coins, since I usually eschew credit cards.) Wal-mart hosts many Coinstar machines, but I have yet to see one that will produce Amazon gift certificates. You have to go to Coinstars hosted at grocery stores for that. So, they have a contract with…

I think Amazon just stopped its collaboration with Coinstar, as it wasn't an option at the grocery store (HEB) machine I used last month.

Re: Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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Post by hunterjrj »

KirinDave wrote: post #94

This is... Not the best? That Wal-Mart is powerful enough to dictate the internal business practice and tech decisions of it's vendor. On the other hand, Amazon is a massive immoral monster devouring the US economy and replacing it with something vaguely worse, year by year. It's rapidly approaching a "too big to be allowed to fail" status, and that's awful for Americans. Since anti-trust laws weren't written by a ge…

Can you expand a bit on your suggestion that Amazon is approaching a "too big to be allowed to fail" status? Are you speaking specifically about AWS?

Re: Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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Post by talmand »

eli wrote: post #101
KirinDave wrote: post #94

This is... Not the best? That Wal-Mart is powerful enough to dictate the internal business practice and tech decisions of it's vendor. On the other hand, Amazon is a massive immoral monster devouring the US economy and replacing it with something vaguely worse, year by year. It's rapidly approaching a "too big to be allowed to fail" status, and that's awful for Americans. Since anti-trust laws weren't written by a ge…

> That Wal-Mart is powerful enough to dictate the internal business practice and tech decisions of it's vendor. Wal-Mart is pretty infamous for squeezing suppliers & vendors on price and operating procedures. Hard.

I recall a story about one vendor deciding it would be more profitable to separate from Wal-Mart and take the declining sales hit versus the dictated profit margin. I believe it was a lawn mower company?

Re: Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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Post by sharemywin »

mabbo wrote: post #88
throwawaymanbot wrote: post #42

If Wal-Mart decrees this, put up or shut up. Welcome to business. CEO Diktats about using not using competitor services for anything whatsoever, are as old as Microsoft. Wal-mart is not in the cloud business, so I can only wonder if, as others have commented, it is about data security in AWS domain, since Wal-Mart's main competitor is Amazon. We know what Google and Facebook get up to with peoples data, why would Ama…

Peeking at competitor data would be a short term great idea, long term terrible idea. You do it once, you'll do it again. You do it too many times, someone will rat you out and now your losing customers fast. Amazon may not be the most ethical company, but they've never been accused of short term thinking. It's just completely outside of what if expect from them.

Amazon is a collection of individuals. It only takes a small number of employees to circumvent the best protocols.

Re: Wal-Mart is telling some vendors they can’t run applications on AWS

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Post by cholantesh »

KirinDave wrote: post #94

This is... Not the best? That Wal-Mart is powerful enough to dictate the internal business practice and tech decisions of it's vendor. On the other hand, Amazon is a massive immoral monster devouring the US economy and replacing it with something vaguely worse, year by year. It's rapidly approaching a "too big to be allowed to fail" status, and that's awful for Americans. Since anti-trust laws weren't written by a ge…

>Amazon is a massive immoral monster devouring the US economy and replacing it with something vaguely worse, year by year

Hasn't the same thing been said about Walmart?

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