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Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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>Hopefully sometime soon Apple will also encrypt iCloud contents so data from non-american people (europe in my case) is protected against the US government prying eyes. Also not American myself, but I think legally it should be quite the opposite: NSA and CIA can "legally" spy non-US citizens. It is illegal for them to spy US citizens.

Why do you think the government should be able to spy on non-US citizens using services from US companies?

"Spying on citizens of other countries" is pretty much the job description of every spy agency in every government around the world (and many add "spying on their own citizens" as well). We may not like it, but it's not exactly a surprising state of affairs.

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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To users, will this affect location-based actions? (Like Google Inbox delivering an email upon arrival to a location.)

Yes, it may, depending on the use case - so we will have to do a better job convincing users that there is value in allowing the use of location "at all times"...

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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I want to be tracked by Google. I went out of my way to turn it on in iPhone. My location is leaked to cell towers and by what wifi network I'm connecting through anyway, and I'd rather be able to figure out which cool restaurant I went to months after my visit to Vilnius is over. Plus my memory of my personal life is so unreliable, especially if I don't have any context, so if I'm ever in court I'd like to be able t…

I've been using this for precisely the reasons you mention: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-have-i-been/id64155398... Google's location history is excellent and I'd gladly pay for an equivalent application which I could self-host and set up with the minimum of hassle, but having them do it creeps me out too much. I've not managed to work out how to get OwnTracks to substitute fully for it.

a decentralized version would be cool

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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post #43

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However iOS11 won't be supported on iPhone 5 and earlier, i.e. on 32bit devices. Only iPhone 5s and up.

To put it into context - the iPhone 5 was in competition with the Galaxy S III and Galaxy Nexus at launch.

And my Galaxy Nexus stopped receiving updates 2-3 years ago despite it being a Google device (mine was also straight from the Google store, so it wasn't the carrier's fault).

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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I really like Apples pro-privacy stance, in contrary to Google & Microsoft. Hopefully sometime soon Apple will also encrypt iCloud contents so data from non-american people (europe in my case) is protected against the US government prying eyes. Our data/privacy seems pretty well protected inside Europe, but in America we seem to have 0 privacy rights (America first...!)

>contrary to Google My Android phone worked out my home and work location without me telling it. That was a bit weird.

Every time I switch back to Android tricks like that are actually kind of nifty (but not enough to get me to stay for long).

My colleague was really impressed by Google Photo's automatic indexing of pictures being able to find the most obscure objects in pictures

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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Wait, can Uber see my name and where I am all the time? Can any app do this?

Your account is linked to a credit card and name. So yes uber knows who you are

More evidence of Uber's future pivot to rating humans (a la black mirror).

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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I've uninstalled Waze multiple times, being reminded that it has been accessing my location in the background while sitting at home relaxing always upset me.

But it's a map app thats its nature.

There's no good reason it should do so when backgrounded.

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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Don't feel bad, most Americans don't have privacy rights either. :) I've been saying this for awhile, that I trust Apple a lot more since they aren't directly incentivized to sell out their users for advertising. I LOVE iOS as a platform, as a user of both Android and Windows Phone there is simply no comparison, iOS blows both away.

>...since they aren't directly incentivized to sell out their users for advertising... Is that due to Apple being pro consumer privacy or because they have $250 billion in cash? When the cache of cash drops does Apple start adding ads and tracking its users?

It's because they sell their hardware, software and services to consumers, not to ad buyers. It has nothing to do with their cash hoard (Apple is perfectly happy to maximize their profits regardless of cash on hand).

It is nice that Tim Cook is pro consumer privacy and that gets baked into the company culture, but Apple is also financially motivated to continue this stance (it's a major differentiating factor and marketing point).

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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I'm leaning towards picking up an iPhone next, just to show some support for the solid pro-privacy stance Apple has taken in recent times. Uber isn't going to be happy with this at all, and that's a great thing.

I've been an Android user since my first smartphone, but Apple's privacy and human-hand-sized phones really had me considering an iPhone for my next purchase. I ended up with a Pixel anyway, since I can't use iTunes and I like having a filesystem and using Firefox, but it was a near thing.
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