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Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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While iOS upgrades are usually free these days, it hasn't always been like this. According to wikipedia, iOS 1.1.3 was a paid upgrade on iPod Touches (while being a free upgrade for iPhones).

The first few upgrades were paid for tax reasons as far as I remember. And then after a few versions they were able to change that.

And only on the iPod touch, not on the iPhone. They also had to charge for a WiFi update on MacBooks for "accounting reasons".

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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I hope this comes to Android. I always thought it worked like this until someone showed me: https://www.google.com/maps/timeline?pb I see way more locations and rides than I actually navigated to with Maps. For most of the time, it is just installed. I now manually disable all location services.

Won't disabling location history avoid this or have you tried?

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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Do apps still have access to location history data? If so this is a nothingburger.

Could you provide a source for your claim that apps have access to location history data?

It's false. Even Apple servers have very limited access to this data.

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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Fantastic. Screw Uber for only having the option to always use or never use.

Screw any app that really thinks it needs my precise coordinates in the foreground, let alone the background. Turn-by-turn directions in maps is the only exception I've found in 10 years of iPhone use.

That's your personal choice and desired level of privacy. I like that my Lyft app knows where to set pick up and that my transit app knows the nearest street car location.

Agree with the OP that Uber can burn in hell for "always on"; I guess just in case I need an emergency Uber ride :-/

But feel free to just uninstall all those other apps that I love using.

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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I really like Apples pro-privacy stance, in contrary to Google & Microsoft. Hopefully sometime soon Apple will also encrypt iCloud contents so data from non-american people (europe in my case) is protected against the US government prying eyes. Our data/privacy seems pretty well protected inside Europe, but in America we seem to have 0 privacy rights (America first...!)

Most of iCloud is encrypted at rest. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202303

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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Screw any app that really thinks it needs my precise coordinates in the foreground, let alone the background. Turn-by-turn directions in maps is the only exception I've found in 10 years of iPhone use.

Off the top of my head, any app involving directions – public transport, say – can reasonably use precise coordinates. Uber is also a reasonable use-case (when you want it to use that data) given the density of some city streets. Then there are location-sharing apps generally, or apps where you want to check in to locations (maybe a bit fuzzier, but there could be a lot of taggable locations within say 500m), or came…

For an app like that, I'd like to see a "approve every request" option. I don't always need my transit app requesting my position (even if only when in the foreground) when I really only need to look up the nearest stop occasionally.

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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I really like Apples pro-privacy stance, in contrary to Google & Microsoft. Hopefully sometime soon Apple will also encrypt iCloud contents so data from non-american people (europe in my case) is protected against the US government prying eyes. Our data/privacy seems pretty well protected inside Europe, but in America we seem to have 0 privacy rights (America first...!)

>Hopefully sometime soon Apple will also encrypt iCloud contents so data from non-american people (europe in my case) is protected against the US government prying eyes.

Also not American myself, but I think legally it should be quite the opposite: NSA and CIA can "legally" spy non-US citizens. It is illegal for them to spy US citizens.

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first few upgrades were paid for tax reasons as far as I remember. And then after a few versions they were able to change that.

And only on the iPod touch, not on the iPhone. They also had to charge for a WiFi update on MacBooks for "accounting reasons".

Yeah I think the iPhone got around it because people were already paying monthly for it.

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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I really like Apples pro-privacy stance, in contrary to Google & Microsoft. Hopefully sometime soon Apple will also encrypt iCloud contents so data from non-american people (europe in my case) is protected against the US government prying eyes. Our data/privacy seems pretty well protected inside Europe, but in America we seem to have 0 privacy rights (America first...!)

Don't feel bad, most Americans don't have privacy rights either. :)

I've been saying this for awhile, that I trust Apple a lot more since they aren't directly incentivized to sell out their users for advertising. I LOVE iOS as a platform, as a user of both Android and Windows Phone there is simply no comparison, iOS blows both away.

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