Is this the VR-capable one?
Honestly, I have no clue why I got downvoted. I was genuinely asking. People keep talking about the VR Apple computer.
Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"
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That Matias keyboard, quite frankly, looks like a piece of junk from the G3 iMac era. Apple could build a mechanical keyboard with their characteristic design and build quality. I think the new butterfly switch is useable, but I don't share your enthusiasm. I have not been able to fully adjust to them and I still make typing errors from my fingers sliding off more than I'd like.
Apple could build a lot of things, but they don't unless there's considerable demand, and mechanical keyboards have very narrow appeal. Matias isn't the only vendor and that's not the only model of mechanical keyboard they make. If you're a mechanical keyboard enthusiast you're living in the golden age of options. You can custom-build your own keyboard, pick individual keycaps, switches, and more. There's vendors lik…
It's true, and I love my HHKB2. But I'd love it more if Apple made it because its plastic enclosure leaves a lot to be desired.
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So they're the same apart from all the features they don't have. What a deeply insightful observation.
They're the same chip, but one of them has artificially deactivated features and is a different line, yes. Misread the line part as chip.
It's a different part and it has different features. Not having ECC memory support is a big deal for some people, so it's misleading to suggest they're basically the same.
They bin things for a reason. If you're happy using a less expensive part with fewer features, great, you can save money. If you're making a top-tier "Pro" product you'll want to avoid cutting corners like that.
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#194Maybe I'm a sheep but I think it's great. Up to 128GB ECC, up to 18 cores, large NVMe SSDs with up to 3GB/s speeds (likely reads, but probably also writes), and it's in that beautiful grey / black. Really cool. The 8-core model at 5k seems reasonable to me since the monitor is likely 2k itself. You'll probably see a lot of them being bought for upper eschelon developers at hip startups. And the TCO of a mac vs. a bei…
The cheapest 5k iMac is $1799, so just the screen is probably closer to $1000.
so say for the imac pro which comes with 32GB ddr4 standard and a 1TB nvme ssd, an 8 core chip, and the higher end panel: 1k for the panel, 750 for the cpu, 200 for the ram, 650 for the ssd (samsung 960 pro?) comes to: 2600 before labor and other overhead. Solid margins there for sure, but I maintain still not a ripoff. As I have earned more in my career (I'm still not wealthy by any means, but I like nice things -- those things are probably related...but beside the point) I have tended to opt for nicer more upscale things and Apple usually fits the bill. Again the iMac for me is the non-pro line, but I want a pro iMac.
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#195Not a Mac user but do they ever release a top-end product that was less powerful than last year's top-end product? If not hasn't ever top-end mac ever been the most powerful mac ever?
MacMini 2013' are better than a new one.
You mean 2012 (Macmini6,x), right? The last of the quad-cores.
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Keep dreaming bud. If you want upgradeability and self-serviceability, build it yourself.
I (and the parent) want this - and don't mind doing it ourselves - on Mac-supported, stable hardware. A supported, stable, updateable Hackintosh. Please, Apple, sell me a big Apple motherboard, a quality case, and write OS-X with boot and driver software that supports various CPUs, RAM, storage, GPUs, power supplies, and peripherals. You know, like Windows and Linux have done for years. Whitelist or blacklist as nece…
That is never going to happen. You're just not Apple's target audience.
And they did try this model back in the clone days where Power Computing went straight after their high margin customers and nearly killed the company. Great for consumers. Terrible for Apple.
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That is just confusing. There will be a modular Mac Pro that is totally different from this iMac Pro? That leaves me to wonder who exactly this iMac Pro is targeted at.
Next year's Mac Pro is up to 18 months away, they made this because that's a long time to leave developer communities discussing Windows and Linux alternatives.
What developers are needing a Mac Pro ?
Unless you're doing machine learning and then chances are you're either doing it in the cloud or you already have a specd out white box. Otherwise Macbook Pro has been more than sufficient.
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Or, you know, a legitimate preference. People like cool looking stuff. Welcome to earth.
Sure, cool looking stuff is great, but if you type for 8+ hours a day, you might want to consider something that won't give you RSI. I mean, there's no lack of cool looking mechanical keyboards, even ones that match Apple products: https://input.club/k-type/ (That one is even USB-C and fully programmable/hackable with an open source firmware.)
I type for 8+ hours a day and don't have RSI. But I do know that typing on those old school mechanical keyboards with their large travel tire my fingers out. It's almost like people are different.
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In that the iMac displays are some of the best in the industry in a very competitive price (competitive displays cost nearly the same for the display alone).
The biggest problem is that the effective lifespan of a good display is much longer than a high performance computer. Even ignoring the compromises made to the computer to allow for the two to be merged, you are simply wasting money upgrading the monitor every time the computer needs to be upgraded. By attaching the two together this machine is even less practical to upgrade than the old trashcan Mac Pro.
Yup. I bought the 30" ACD in 2006. It's still running fine now, though a bit of image retention is creeping in.
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Yes, I have Xeons in my WS. The reason why many people ended up buying Xeons for the desktop is core count -- i7 had 6, then 8 cores until recently, so a 10-18 core workstation could only be built with Xeons. The other difference is ECC, which most of the people don't necessarily want (let's not talk about whether they need it or not). If a developer/pro/etc. need 18 cores, most of the time they'll be OK with a top-e…
> If a developer/pro/etc. need 18 cores, most of the time they'll be OK with a top-end i7 -- I think. Not if they need ECC RAM - and if you've got enough professional stuff to fill 128GB of RAM, you really, really need ECC RAM.
Especially if you're routinely moving terabytes between the workstation and NAS.