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Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Post by rbanffy »

heliumcraft wrote: post #101
rbanffy wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A Dell Precision 7000 will set you back US$3000 at a configuration similar to the iMac Pro. Add a good 27" 5K display, PCI-based SSD and you are close to US$ 6000 with a GPU that's a generation behind. And it comes with Windows. Nobody deserves that.

Wait, but Dell Precision 7000 is a laptop? you can't compare with a desktop. I just built a good gaming PC that can be overclocked including a GTX 1080 for just $2300 (monitor excluded). I'm sure with $4700 more it's possible to get something still better than this new imac pro.. yet with a good cooling system and upgradable at any time. edit: $2300 INCLUDING 15% taxes

Sorry, the Precision 7000 is the "Fixed workstation".

You'll probably can get something with higher performance, but it'll probably also take up more space, generate more heat and make more noise. It'll also demand more time to select the components and assemble it. If you enjoy doing it, OK. If you don't, your time is more expensive than the difference.

I selected a Dell because I want a single phone number to call when something goes wrong.

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Post by chaostheory »

mpweiher wrote: post #21
colept wrote: post #9

This is Apple's answer to their negligence to the Pro market, and it's hugely disappointing. The iMac was already supposed to be a Pro machine. And then they "New Coke"'d it by making it too thin and susceptible to overheating. Performance suffered and now they're compensating with this machine. At $5000 the iMac Pro falls just short of a ~$2000 Hackintosh. It's still locked into the thin form factor that can't be up…

> This is Apple's answer to their negligence to the Pro market, Nah, this is the stopgap they talked about when they had their "Come to Jesus" meeting with bloggers. A real big boxy Mac Pro is supposed to come after 2017. Pre-announced, which Apple never does. See: https://daringfireball.net/2017/04/the_mac_pro_lives EDIT: They didn't actually say 2018, just "not in 2017"

It's a strange stop gap: something extremely overpriced that you can't upgrade later on. Not everyone can fully max out their machines from the start. If they replicate this release with the upcoming Mac Pro (which is likely), it'll be time for me to begin leaving the Apple ecosystem. Windows is far from ideal but with their unix shell and virtualization, it'll be 'good enough'.

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Post by zymhan »

kuon wrote: post #94

I am so happy I switched to Windows, ha! My 7048A supermicro is running double E5-2650 (2x 10 cores) with 1TB ram, quadro P4000 and it was around 5000$ (not counting displays, which I had).

No one runs a Mac because they just want powerful hardware.

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Post by gigatexal »

rayiner wrote: post #83
strictnein wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who wants a 27" 5k monitor? Weird thing to try and price against, since you can get better monitors for less.

People who edit 4k video and want room for toolbars?

The founder of Jupiter broadcasting famous for his pro-linux family of podcasts continues to rave about the Apple platform and the performance of his 2016 macbook and final cut pro. That's saying something. I imagine it'd only get better while on a desktop system like the iMac.

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Post by ebbv »

DoofusOfDeath wrote: post #89
tomduncalf wrote: post #32

Gonna leave this here from the official press release as it seems quite a few people have missed this point: "In addition to the new iMac Pro, Apple is working on a completely redesigned, next-generation Mac Pro architected for pro customers who need the highest-end, high-throughput system in a modular design, as well as a new high-end pro display." https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/06/imac-pro-most-powerfu... Also…

It sounds like the target audience for the new Mac Pro will be people who can afford to spend $10k on a quad-CPU machine. I'm sure those people will be happy. But what I want is an upgradable / self-servicable machine that costs under $3k. I hope Apple isn't about to miss the plot again .

> But what I want is an upgradable / self-servicable machine that costs under $3k.

Yeah that's never going to happen. The Pro iMac starts at $5k. When the Mac Pro does come out it will at least start at that as well, if not higher.

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Post by paulcole »

DoofusOfDeath wrote: post #89
tomduncalf wrote: post #32

Gonna leave this here from the official press release as it seems quite a few people have missed this point: "In addition to the new iMac Pro, Apple is working on a completely redesigned, next-generation Mac Pro architected for pro customers who need the highest-end, high-throughput system in a modular design, as well as a new high-end pro display." https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/06/imac-pro-most-powerfu... Also…

It sounds like the target audience for the new Mac Pro will be people who can afford to spend $10k on a quad-CPU machine. I'm sure those people will be happy. But what I want is an upgradable / self-servicable machine that costs under $3k. I hope Apple isn't about to miss the plot again .

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

It's been years since Apple has made anything that was upgradable/self-serviceable at any price point. To expect that to change now is just unproductive wishful thinking. Either find an alternative or figure out which of Apple's products comes closest to meeting your needs.

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Post by benologist »

slg wrote: post #56
tomduncalf wrote: post #32

Gonna leave this here from the official press release as it seems quite a few people have missed this point: "In addition to the new iMac Pro, Apple is working on a completely redesigned, next-generation Mac Pro architected for pro customers who need the highest-end, high-throughput system in a modular design, as well as a new high-end pro display." https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/06/imac-pro-most-powerfu... Also…

That is just confusing. There will be a modular Mac Pro that is totally different from this iMac Pro? That leaves me to wonder who exactly this iMac Pro is targeted at.

Next year's Mac Pro is up to 18 months away, they made this because that's a long time to leave developer communities discussing Windows and Linux alternatives.

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Post by andyfleming »

slg wrote: post #56
tomduncalf wrote: post #32

Gonna leave this here from the official press release as it seems quite a few people have missed this point: "In addition to the new iMac Pro, Apple is working on a completely redesigned, next-generation Mac Pro architected for pro customers who need the highest-end, high-throughput system in a modular design, as well as a new high-end pro display." https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/06/imac-pro-most-powerfu... Also…

That is just confusing. There will be a modular Mac Pro that is totally different from this iMac Pro? That leaves me to wonder who exactly this iMac Pro is targeted at.

I would guess that it's for people that want something more powerful before the new Mac Pro comes out. I don't think it's supposed to be out until 2018. Maybe they will be releasing it next year at WWDC.

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Post by maxxxxx »

vosper wrote: post #28
maxxxxx wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Pretty is not everything. Many of us just need a practical and flexible machine to work with.

There are plenty of nice looking PC cases out there these days. I'm hoping to build a Hackintosh into an NZXT Manta case [0] (the windowless, matte black one) so that I can have practical, flexible, pretty, and quiet [0] https://www.nzxt.com/products/manta-matte-black-windowless

Nothing wrong with pretty. The problem with Apple these days seems to be that they compromise extensibility for prettiness.

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Post by acchow »

tomduncalf wrote: post #32

Gonna leave this here from the official press release as it seems quite a few people have missed this point: "In addition to the new iMac Pro, Apple is working on a completely redesigned, next-generation Mac Pro architected for pro customers who need the highest-end, high-throughput system in a modular design, as well as a new high-end pro display." https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/06/imac-pro-most-powerfu... Also…

No, this wasn't missed. Daring Fireball already talked about this 2 months ago:

https://daringfireball.net/2017/04/the_mac_pro_lives

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