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Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Intel has just priced it's 18-core i9-7900X at 2K.

You do realise Xeons are a completely different range with different price points right?

While this is true, the i9 18-core part is the first they've launched after AMD made their big move with their new 8 and 16 core parts.

It's possible that Intel might have to claw back Xeon pricing accordingly to defend their market share.

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Because it's Xeons which is a different line.

No, they are not. All extreme edition CPU's from Intel are cut down Xeons with deactivated features (like ECC support), and the need to buy hardware dongles to make RAID 5 and RAID 10 work. EDIT: read the children posts. I mistakenly read "chip" instead of "line". Of course Xeons are a different line compared to Intels extreme line. The above about the extreme series CPU's being cut down Xeons is still true but in th…

So they're the same apart from all the features they don't have. What a deeply insightful observation.

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I get that they want a common design language and to simplify supply chain/manufacturing, but why take those compromised butterfly switches and make a desktop keyboard out of them? The previous scissor switch keys were OK. A big improvement over their previous garbage membrane keyboards in fact. But the new keys are really a necessary evil to make thinner laptops - why hamper the desktop experience with them? On the…

Why would Apple make a "mechanical" keyboard when there's already multiple vendors like Matias ( http://matias.ca/tactilepro/ ) that make several models of that exact thing? Personally I think the new keyboards are really good, there's a lot less travel on each key which makes typing more efficient. Going back to an old keyboard with full travel feels like hammering on a typewriter.

That Matias keyboard, quite frankly, looks like a piece of junk from the G3 iMac era.

Apple could build a mechanical keyboard with their characteristic design and build quality.

I think the new butterfly switch is useable, but I don't share your enthusiasm. I have not been able to fully adjust to them and I still make typing errors from my fingers sliding off more than I'd like.

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You do realise Xeons are a completely different range with different price points right?

Yes, I have Xeons in my WS. The reason why many people ended up buying Xeons for the desktop is core count -- i7 had 6, then 8 cores until recently, so a 10-18 core workstation could only be built with Xeons. The other difference is ECC, which most of the people don't necessarily want (let's not talk about whether they need it or not). If a developer/pro/etc. need 18 cores, most of the time they'll be OK with a top-e…

> If a developer/pro/etc. need 18 cores, most of the time they'll be OK with a top-end i7 -- I think.

Not if they need ECC RAM - and if you've got enough professional stuff to fill 128GB of RAM, you really, really need ECC RAM.

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No, they are not. All extreme edition CPU's from Intel are cut down Xeons with deactivated features (like ECC support), and the need to buy hardware dongles to make RAID 5 and RAID 10 work. EDIT: read the children posts. I mistakenly read "chip" instead of "line". Of course Xeons are a different line compared to Intels extreme line. The above about the extreme series CPU's being cut down Xeons is still true but in th…

So they're the same apart from all the features they don't have. What a deeply insightful observation.

They're the same chip, but one of them has ‎artificially deactivated features and is a different line, yes. Misread the line part as chip.

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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If you need and cares about Display Quality, the Pricing for these iMac and iMac Pro are surprisingly attractive. I have yet to see anyone deliver 21" 4K Screen at a reasonable price. And all the listed spec for iMac Display aren't simply best in the industry apart from OLED.

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Why would Apple make a "mechanical" keyboard when there's already multiple vendors like Matias ( http://matias.ca/tactilepro/ ) that make several models of that exact thing? Personally I think the new keyboards are really good, there's a lot less travel on each key which makes typing more efficient. Going back to an old keyboard with full travel feels like hammering on a typewriter.

That Matias keyboard, quite frankly, looks like a piece of junk from the G3 iMac era. Apple could build a mechanical keyboard with their characteristic design and build quality. I think the new butterfly switch is useable, but I don't share your enthusiasm. I have not been able to fully adjust to them and I still make typing errors from my fingers sliding off more than I'd like.

Apple could build a lot of things, but they don't unless there's considerable demand, and mechanical keyboards have very narrow appeal.

Matias isn't the only vendor and that's not the only model of mechanical keyboard they make. If you're a mechanical keyboard enthusiast you're living in the golden age of options. You can custom-build your own keyboard, pick individual keycaps, switches, and more.

There's vendors like http://www.wasdkeyboards.com that are basically "Build-a-Bear" for keyboards.

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Gonna leave this here from the official press release as it seems quite a few people have missed this point: "In addition to the new iMac Pro, Apple is working on a completely redesigned, next-generation Mac Pro architected for pro customers who need the highest-end, high-throughput system in a modular design, as well as a new high-end pro display." https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/06/imac-pro-most-powerfu... Also…

It sounds like the target audience for the new Mac Pro will be people who can afford to spend $10k on a quad-CPU machine. I'm sure those people will be happy. But what I want is an upgradable / self-servicable machine that costs under $3k. I hope Apple isn't about to miss the plot again .

I just built a powerful Hackintosh for about $1.5k with Sierra.

Was worried about how stable it would be and took good care of researching all the parts that were verified by the community[1]. It's been going good for 3-4 months now. Took some effort to get it all setup but am very happy now. I use this for Video/Photo post-processing, web development mainly.

[1] https://www.tonymacx86.com/

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Maybe I'm a sheep but I think it's great. Up to 128GB ECC, up to 18 cores, large NVMe SSDs with up to 3GB/s speeds (likely reads, but probably also writes), and it's in that beautiful grey / black. Really cool. The 8-core model at 5k seems reasonable to me since the monitor is likely 2k itself. You'll probably see a lot of them being bought for upper eschelon developers at hip startups. And the TCO of a mac vs. a bei…

The cheapest 5k iMac is $1799, so just the screen is probably closer to $1000.
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