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Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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>Also, I want that black keyboard! is this satire?

Every white Apple keyboard I've owned has yellowed within months. Meanwhile, my black MacBook Air keyboard looks nearly the exact same as it did when I bought it four years ago. Like OP, I also thought that the black keyboard was long overdue.

I haven't had that problem. Regularly cleaning the keys with isopropyl alchohol seems to work just fine.

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> At $5000 the iMac Pro falls just short of a ~$2000 Hackintosh A 5k Monitor alone costs around $800-1000 and does not compare in quality to Apple displays, 8 core xeon + motherboard are another 800$, it's already around $1600-1800 - and its not taking SSD and Video card and Ram into account...

I don't know about quality not being comparative, the LG panels are great, the real difference is they're not in an Apple aluminum package.

LG's 5K display costs $1299.

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This is the stopgap. They said there'll be a real Pro in 2018.

Then why should anyone buy this one?

It is available earlier, and perhaps, with those "power" upgrades, it does the job for a large part of the audience. The iMac is a really great computer for all, who don't need to exchange components. Now with real workstation class power.

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The mac pro did not feature external GPU, just external storage. The only thing you won't be able to upgrade in this machine is the CPU. The RAM is not soldered on those high end iMacs, and disk and gpu can be external over TB3.

Thunderbolt promised there would be external GPUs, but IIRC there were licensing and corporate disputes that prevented such hardware from ever materializing ( after the design and debut of the Mac Pro). But it definitely was the promise of such a compact machine: "external everything!" Non-soldered RAM is a good start, but what about multiple ethernet ports, what about any standard scientific/medical/experimental PCI…

External ethernet over TB3 is also a thing. Honestly, all these "what about" things are doable over TB3, with the exception of a CPU upgrade and Optane (I'm assuming TB3 doesn't quite give you that level of latency). So, as far as expandability I don't think it is that bad. The only question is whether you want a carefully designed machine like the iMac surrounded by a sea of dongles and enclosures.

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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They wouldn't need this rushed excuse for a 'Pro' machine if they hadn't totally taken their eyes off the MacPro for the last 3+ years!

It's like they woke up one day and realised 'oh crap people are pissed and when we asked them why we were surprised that we have upset customers because we haven't updated this MacPro thingy in a few years' and then Tim Cook must have decreed 'let's get SOMETHING out there to stop the masses turning out with pitchforks!'

Really should never have come to this.

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Nothing wrong with pretty. The problem with Apple these days seems to be that they compromise extensibility for prettiness.

I think their real target market is no longer pros. The pros are vastly outnumbered by people with a lot a money that will buy the latest shiny thing Apple puts out. As a company strategy to make the most money, its smart. If you are a pro looking for a serious work computer, Macs are just not very compelling.

You are probably right but I think that's pretty shortsighted. I think one of the main reasons for the rise of the Macbooks was the fact that suddenly a lot of developers started using them. Once developers start moving away from Mac their ecosystem will hurt a lot.

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Gonna leave this here from the official press release as it seems quite a few people have missed this point: "In addition to the new iMac Pro, Apple is working on a completely redesigned, next-generation Mac Pro architected for pro customers who need the highest-end, high-throughput system in a modular design, as well as a new high-end pro display." https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/06/imac-pro-most-powerfu... Also…

I get that they want a common design language and to simplify supply chain/manufacturing, but why take those compromised butterfly switches and make a desktop keyboard out of them?

The previous scissor switch keys were OK. A big improvement over their previous garbage membrane keyboards in fact. But the new keys are really a necessary evil to make thinner laptops - why hamper the desktop experience with them?

On the desktops they have the luxury of non-portability, so why not a new mechanical keyboard design for the iMac and Mac Pro?

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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I just can't believe they chose the 18-core 2018 Intel vaporware chip [1] over this year's 16-core AMD Threadripper. Very strange decision on Apple's part. Not to mention they could've sold the iMac Pro for like $1,000 less. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWFzWRoVNnE

Thunderbolt.

Yeah, probably the biggest reason. Maybe this will change when Thunderbolt will be royalty-free next year. AMD has the advantage of being the only company on this planet which can combine a high performance x86 CPU and high performance GPU.
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