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They are not forcing you to listen to anything. You can a) delete the message or b) change voicemail systems so this does not work. These problems can be mitigated from a technical perspective.
> change voicemail systems so this does not work But if the GOP made prohibiting direct-to-voice-mail illegal you wouldn't be able to do that...
Ringless voice mails from telemarketers
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When a particular company calls you, just ask to be put on their "do not call" list. Real organizations always seem to honor that list, and there are large fines from the FCC if they don't. (The robocallers described in the article are a different beast, who spoof numbers and pop up under a new identity as soon as they are shut down.)
One of the times I answered I told him to put me on the do-not-call list and the live person said: "FUCK YOUUUUUU" and hung up. My calls increased considerably after that day. Yes I have considered suing many times, but chicken out realizing how much work would be involved. Most of the calls don't ring anymore as I migrated to Google Voice and just turned on Do Not Disturb for everyone. I can read that it's telemarke…
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That's exactly how it works. While I was at Twilio, we figured out how to do it - mostly from a customer abusing the system - and shut them down at the time. The problem was that it wasn't complicated enough that it would take long for others to figure out. The problem I noted at the time is that since we only charged for minutes during the call, the first call - which was dialed and immediately dropped - would never…
I am a big fan of twillio, but I suspect that they or companies like it are contributing to the problem. I would like everyone that uses a telephone API to be required to register a bond. If they are found abusing the system, they will lose the bond and be banned from using ANY companies telephone system. That telephony companies do not take the opportunity fix tbe actual problem makes me think a court may be able to…
My point is, there are at least hundreds of providers you can get a voip line from, in addition to the many traditional carriers you could get conventional phone lines from; many of which are not really beholden to the courts of whichever jurisdiction you choose. Getting them all to agree not to provide service to one person is going to be hard; especially with the large networks of reselling resold traffic.
I would love to see some sort of regulation requiring some ability to trace down the origin of calls, though. There should be a way to track back which carriers (and their customers) involved when the recipient would like to press charges against the entity that placed the call (ex: the fraudulent callers from "The Windows" trying to "fix" my computer). There are valid reasons for anonymous calling, so safeguards should be in place, maybe just a star code (feature code) to indicate the last received call was spam, and a caller that generates a large number of reported calls is subject to investigation by the carrier and referral to law enforcement if appropriate.
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#185The article doesn't describe how the technology works. Due to the slow speed (100 voicemail/min) its likely what they are doing is initiating a call far enough for the phone system to busy out your phone, then very quickly placing a second call that the phone system sends straight to voicemail as your phone is busy. Once this call starts to hit voicemail, the original call is dropped. I doubt phone companies let peop…
If I call my T-Mobile voicemail I can leave a message on someone else's T-Mobile line. Definitely possible.
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#186Perhaps a shrink-wrap style TOS in my voice mail message? By leaving a message you agree to pay a fee per ringless message?
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Is getting a new number a bad option for you?
I have had several friends and colleagues get new numbers and immediately be hounded by collection agencies looking for the old owner of the number. Some of these collection agencies also stared sending postal mail to their homes based on the linking this new number with their addresses.
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#189I disabled voicemail a long time ago, never going back. I educated my contacts to retry or send a text, worked well so far.
So what happens when, for example, you're trying to get a home loan to buy a new house, and the loan officer is an older person who doesn't use texts? (This is something real that recently happened to me, and for which a phone and voicemail were indispensable.) I find that while I can do what you suggest for friends and family, there are just enough situations where I can't do that, that I need to still have voicemai…
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it's ok. but the issue is randomly calling ppl. not the call itself. at least in germany random/cold calls are forbidden so you can only call people who agreed to it prior.
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