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Ringless voice mails from telemarketers

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Re: Ringless voice mails from telemarketers

#92
My first impression is that having the government regulate them is unnecessary, since you can block them on your phone(and phone providers can sell phones that block them by default). All you need is one company to sell a "telemarketer-resistant" phone with an automatically-synced blocklist and some other settings enabled by default.

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The article doesn't describe how the technology works. Due to the slow speed (100 voicemail/min) its likely what they are doing is initiating a call far enough for the phone system to busy out your phone, then very quickly placing a second call that the phone system sends straight to voicemail as your phone is busy. Once this call starts to hit voicemail, the original call is dropped. I doubt phone companies let peop…

When I worked for a telco, you could easily call the voice mail main line, and then just use options to leave a voicemail in any mailbox. Easy peasy.

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> The Republican National Committee, which is in favor of ringless voice mail, goes as far as to argue that prohibiting direct-to-voice-mail messages may be a violation of free speech. Absurd. The right to free speech does not include forcing others to listen to you.

This is because the use the technology and it works well.

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You really only need a double call. It's quite easy. I wrote this ages ago http://edoceo.com/exemplar/call-to-voicemail Oddly, my number gets blown up by these things.

How about call waiting?

That's why I was thinking triple call. Only double call would cause call waiting.

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But HOW does it work? It's not clear by the article precisely how this is done. Possibly a triple call system. Three calls to that same number at once, each a millisecond after the other, and when the third hits the voicemail the other two disconnect immediately.

You really only need a double call. It's quite easy. I wrote this ages ago http://edoceo.com/exemplar/call-to-voicemail Oddly, my number gets blown up by these things.

I've never gotten them. -shrugs- How strange.

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But HOW does it work? It's not clear by the article precisely how this is done. Possibly a triple call system. Three calls to that same number at once, each a millisecond after the other, and when the third hits the voicemail the other two disconnect immediately.

Another way of doing this is looking at LRN database and hitting the voicemail access numbers for the carrier. Often times the pilot number will let you dial a mailbox directly.

LRM database? Could you please elaborate?

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#98

Anyone else in a situation where you're receiving robocalls ten times a day? Hard to believe, but I can show screenshots as proof. I just counted. It's four times per day, like clockwork. Then there are various other robocalls that come in every couple days. So sometimes it's 4 per day, sometimes it's up to 7. It's mildly annoying, but is there any other option than to just ignore it or keep blocking the endless new…

If you're on Android, there's call-blocking apps that let you do various kinds of blacklist/whitelist call screening.

For now, I block spammy numbers and unknown/private numbers. If it gets bad, I'll move to a whitelist (only people on my contact list ring through).

It's galling beyond belief that any political party anywhere would let the abuse of the phone system become a free speech issue. These people are actively making the world worse. (And what's worse is how cheaply they're bought off. Come on, you scummy congresspeople, are you really worth so little?)

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I get maybe a dozen calls per week that become 2 second hangup voicemails. It's been going on for a few years. Mark the number spam in Google Voice, but I still get a voice mail notification on my phone for those numbers unless they're also blocked. But it's a different number every time, endless.

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Heck, a voice message over the chat client of their choice is faster, infinitely more accessible, and still voice.

Well, half of the point is that you don't want voice in the first place...

Voice is by far the least of the problems with voicemail.

- If someone leaves you voicemail, you don't necessarily know that that happened.

- Checking your voicemail is effortful.

- Any random idiot can dial your phone number and leave you voicemail.

- Voice is harder to process than text.

Leaving someone a voice message doesn't help with #4, but that's a very minor issue. It solves all of the first three.

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