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Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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I haven't been on Facebook for years. The result? A weakening of my friendships and of my social life. I often hear the argument that "if they were your real friends you wouldn't need that" or some variation but the truth is that unplanned interactions are a major part of how friendships thrive. If you are no longer part of a place where a lot of these interactions happen, it will definitely affect your social life, even if your friends are well meaning. For reference, I was born in the early nineties, and people my age and in my region are definitely very much still on Facebook for a large portion of their day, even extroverted and outdoorsy individuals.

I tried the author's method of using phone and text but did not have the encouraging results he did.

I'm also really sick of having my absence of a Facebook be commented on by all sorts of people.

All in all, I'm starting to regret my choice and despite the warnings of the author (all of which I was already assuming to be going on behind the scenes as I always judged Facebook to be untrustworthy).

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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post #262

I haven't been on Facebook for years. The result? A weakening of my friendships and of my social life. I often hear the argument that "if they were your real friends you wouldn't need that" or some variation but the truth is that unplanned interactions are a major part of how friendships thrive. If you are no longer part of a place where a lot of these interactions happen, it will definitely affect your social life,…

you are unlikely to make more than a handful of "true" friends. as long as those are kept, what remains of the tens or hundreds of "friends" in Facebook is no more than a passing aquaintance, and they do not add much, if any, your life by reading their feeds or comments (any more than comments on HN).

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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post #263
post #262

I haven't been on Facebook for years. The result? A weakening of my friendships and of my social life. I often hear the argument that "if they were your real friends you wouldn't need that" or some variation but the truth is that unplanned interactions are a major part of how friendships thrive. If you are no longer part of a place where a lot of these interactions happen, it will definitely affect your social life,…

you are unlikely to make more than a handful of "true" friends. as long as those are kept, what remains of the tens or hundreds of "friends" in Facebook is no more than a passing aquaintance, and they do not add much, if any, your life by reading their feeds or comments (any more than comments on HN).

It's not possible to predict who is going to change from being a passing acquaintance to a meaningful long-term friend.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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I'm surprised to be the only one to point out that many of the examples the author uses are misleading. "Facebook is impersonating you to post things!" -> Facebook clumsily attaches an advertisement to a post with a prominent Related Post header. "Facebook selling your data to Mastercard!" -> anonymized data is being sold to Mastercard to understand browsing habits and interests. "Facebook buries posts that it doesn'…

To offer a counterpoint, I don't find those deceptive at all - your depiction is the one that sounds too forgiving and downplays the real impact.

Also, "anonymised" data just doesn't have your name attached to it, but can still be a very detailed personal profile. All it takes is one link between your identity and that data to de-anonymise it.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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There are no secrets in the bathroom analogy. We all know what you're doing in there (or have a 50% chance at guessing). But you still want privacy.

Nobody gets it... He said you can have privacy without secrets. But suppose there exists a room with a door where you don't know what someone is doing behind it. The activity behind the door is the secret. The door is still representing privacy (not secrecy). That was the point of the analogy.

There are known-unknowns, and unknown-unknowns :-)

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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One of the things that got me to leave was how crappy facebook has gotten for actual communication. This part of the post really resonated with me > If you’ve ever had that conversation, you’ve noticed that there’s a big disconnect between your expectations when you communicate on Facebook and what really happens. Basically, Facebook filters out your posts based on whether or not people will use Facebook more if they…

For actual communication (messaging) it is actually one of the best. It is fast, reliable, and has genuinely great value adds like group messaging, encrypted messages, expiring messages and photos, location sharing, rich attatchments, seen notifications, integration with facebook profiles means I can find anyone (who has a profile) even if I don't have their contact details. Sure the app is a bit heavy with features…

I can't use it without installing an app on my phone, even when I force desktop (which used to work).

Remember when they tried to replace email with facebook messenger? And then tried to replace text messaging/etc?

If it's the best messaging client you've used, I'm bemused, because it's honestly no better than AIM was in 2002 for communicating with friends on my computer. In fact I probably find it worse most of the time.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Expecting people to take an extra step to fit your needs (email) is really almost no different from asking them to share on another platform IMHO. They aren't hiding from you, in fact I'd put money on the table that they'd happily invite you into their group or you'd have access to the photos simply by being their friend on FB. You can't walk outside the bar then complain that none of your friends want to stand in th…

> Expecting people to take an extra step to fit your needs (email) is really almost no different from asking them to share on another platform IMHO. Email is not a platform, I think you are confusing it with gmail. > You can't walk outside the bar then complain that none of your friends want to stand in the window and relay everything happening to you or get mad they might be talking about you when you can just walk…

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