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Get your loved ones off Facebook
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Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
Uninstall Facebook's phone app and check out mbasic.facebook.com. It doesn't require javascript to run. You can access Messenger and everything.
messenger.com also works well on the desktop to chat and avoid the newsfeed. Unfortunately it redirects to the app/play store on mobile, and has a terrible layout if you force desktop mode. I think a good enough compromise for me is to only use the messenger and contacts, and avoid the newsfeed/posts/pages.
That's exactly what I do. I only use messenger.com and the fb messenger app. My friends warn me when there's something of interest on one of our college groups, but apart from that I don't go to the main site at all.
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are no secrets in the bathroom analogy. We all know what you're doing in there (or have a 50% chance at guessing). But you still want privacy.
Nobody gets it... He said you can have privacy without secrets. But suppose there exists a room with a door where you don't know what someone is doing behind it. The activity behind the door is the secret. The door is still representing privacy (not secrecy). That was the point of the analogy.
You're adding an element of your own subjective knowledge/awareness. You could not know a secret or something kept private. The only thing that is the same is your not knowing. What you don't know could still be a secret, something private, or even public knowledge for that matter. The point is, you not knowing doesn't make anything anything.
A secret is an attribution to the contents of a description which are withheld for security reasons. Or at least, that's what it should be. And that's what it appears to be with the military.
Privacy is a right to withhold information based on a fair desire to not have that information be known.
Invasion of privacy is someone pulling the curtains when you're showering or opening the door when you're in the bathroom.
That should not be confused with invasion of secrecy.
Either way, the main point is that these two terms are confusing, and even the law confuses them. And yes, people would consider something they don't know a secret also, and your use of the word is intuitively correct. But a clearer distinction could and should exist, and we should all work towards that clearer distinction. I believe the words are already more than adequate, since we already see the correct (most practical and fitting) distinctions used where they are most needed in practice (military).
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#204It won't be a popular opinion here but here it goes: Well if it all goes to hell we will all be in the same handbasket. I'm simply not willing to cut people out of my life and miss out on things that are important to me because my data is mined and might be used against me. All these distributed platforms are a joke, no really they are technically cool but no one I care about is on them. Maybe if your entire social c…
But what's the advantage of Facebook over email and/or texting? I feel like for anything other than wasting time Facebook is sluggish compared to either. If you're a Facebook user you have a cellphone and/or a computer, and can do everything Facebook does: share pictures, plan events, check-in with friends, family, and groups of people. And not share data* or be peppered with garbage advertisements. * I personally pa…
> But what's the advantage of Facebook over email and/or texting?
Many people don't check their emails as frequently as you think. I know quite a few people (young and old) who are constantly on Instagram, FB Messenger, iMessages, WhatsApp, Line etc. but check their emails once a week. Especially if they aren't in an industry that revolves around email e.g. customer service.
Texting costs money in some places and lacks rich capabilities. It's antiquated.
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#205Recently I had bought my mother her first smartphone to help being her into the twentieth century (she never had the mental or financial capacity to do it herself). I decided to sign her up for Facebook, and as I was going through some of the TOS, I started feeling dirty; I felt like I was giving away my own mother's privacy to Facebook for their profit. Not that I fully grasp the impact either, but she will never even begin to understand the damage I've done by simply putting that app on her phone. Quite frankly, I have disgusted myself.
Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
> In fact I've thought on multiple occasions that someone is hiding something if they don't have one. I feel the same about people who do use facebook, when they take pictures of me and others who are not on "The Social Network", then they put those on facebook for others to see with other personal information without concent, they don't inform me about their comments regarding those pictures. For all I know those pe…
Expecting people to take an extra step to fit your needs (email) is really almost no different from asking them to share on another platform IMHO. They aren't hiding from you, in fact I'd put money on the table that they'd happily invite you into their group or you'd have access to the photos simply by being their friend on FB. You can't walk outside the bar then complain that none of your friends want to stand in th…
> except one of them causes cancer
I see Facebook as a type of cancer so...
Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook
#207Delete timeline for me: - Delete account - 1st week, open facebook tab close facebook tab. - 2nd week, visit facebook once a day by accident don't login - 3rd week, visit facebook once a week, don't login - 4th week, stop visiting altogether It's been about 6 months now without an account and my wife and I are really happy about no longer have it. Try it!
It's been since 2009 since I deleted my Facebook account, and my timeline was roughly like yours for weeks 1-4. Then: - 2nd year, wonder if I should get back on to 'stay in touch.' - 3rd-5th year, never think about it - 6th year, wonder if I should get on Facebook so my family can see pictures of my kids. But, my wife does Instagram. - 8th year, smug comment on HN to show how long I've been off Facebook :).
I never did delete my account, but I access it maybe once a year. Whenever I hear that someone I had friended had something happen, such as a death in the family or a marriage, I'll log in once to post a message, maybe once or twice more to see if there are any responses, and then log out again and go take a long shower. I'm like the Lone Ranger riding in when needed and then riding off into the sunset when done.
In between, I keep my privacy shields up and relegate all the FB notifications to the trash. There is only so much social interaction I can handle at a time anyway.
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#208Golden quote: Don’t confuse privacy with secrecy. I know what you do in the bathroom, but you still close the door. That’s because you want privacy, not secrecy. (From I have nothing to hide. Why should I care about my privacy? : https://medium.com/@FabioAEsteves/i-have-nothing-to-hide-why... )
This analogy works pretty well. The door gives both secrecy and privacy. If you want to keep people from doing drugs in the bathroom (their secret) you'll have to give up some privacy(people seeing things they know you're doing).
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#209I read the article and every other article explaining these very valid points and I just can't find it in myself to care. Maybe one day I'll regret it, hopefully I won't.
For now, Facebook is a convenient way to be aware of people I care about. I don't use it much, but then again, I'm not connected to many people; only people I actually know and have interacted with IRL, and a few I interacted with extensively through other online means.
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#210A good number of people I know have left facebook for everything but the events. Its still the one central location where pretty much everybody is. I would love nothing more than a standalone events app that not only had future events, but a, 'hey, I'm at %location%, anyone want to meet up?' that allowed for multiple degrees of social interaction --- e.g. just friends, anybody.
This is the primary reason I use it. It annoys my girlfriend (who posts regularly) that I don't read what she posts (sometimes I do, but that leads to a time sink when I see everything else I've "got" to read). 99% of my use is to post event announcements, and respond to event invites from friends. If I could trust people to properly respond to emailed invites, I would, but most people I know have 1k+ unread emails.…
I don't know how people can live with an inbox like that. I'd go crazy.
I first started leaving Facebook when my feed was consumed with children and lovey-dovey posts. That's cute and all, but I can only handle so much of that (let's round up to one per month...)
Down the road, if things start going south for Facebook, I wouldn't be surprised if they broke off the events into a separate app.