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Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by khedoros1 »

bargl wrote: post #98
throwanem wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never used Facebook. But if I had, to the extent you have, it would horrify and frighten me to reflect upon the fact that so much of my emotional life were all but inextricably tied into one private company, such that staying in that company's good graces had become a necessary part of maintaining access to my own memories .

I think you are taking this a little out of context. The best part for me is the feed into other peoples lives. It's a service I'd be sad to loose. It's interesting to find someone on here who maintains all of their files/email/photos/etc locally in a redundantly backed-up manner at home on their own personal server. How did you do that? Can you recommend me a way to do that for a non-technical person? If you don't t…

> It's interesting to find someone on here who maintains all of their files/email/photos/etc locally in a redundantly backed-up manner at home on their own personal server. How did you do that? Can you recommend me a way to do that for a non-technical person?

...You don't do that? If you don't have local "gold master" copies of your files, then you don't own your files. And if you don't copy them onto multiple devices, then you have a single point of failure.

> I mean what would you do if apple/google wrote an update to their os that wiped all of your contacts for good?

I'd be very impressed that they could also reach my copies of that data that aren't stored on Apple/Google services...

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by mjevans »

maze-le wrote: post #74
sergiotapia wrote: post #7

Delete timeline for me: - Delete account - 1st week, open facebook tab close facebook tab. - 2nd week, visit facebook once a day by accident don't login - 3rd week, visit facebook once a week, don't login - 4th week, stop visiting altogether It's been about 6 months now without an account and my wife and I are really happy about no longer have it. Try it!

Gosh, that sounds an awfully lot like ending a nasty drug habit: - Quit smoking. - 1st week, light up a cigarette in a stressful situation, enjoy it... - 2nd week, light up a cigarette and immediateley regret it... - 3rd week, wonder why you still have this package of ciggis at home (and the inner schweinehund responding: they are for emergency situations, EMERGENCY IS NOW!!!) - 4th week, throw away the "emergency"-p…

Emotions are another source of chemical messengers. Lots of things can be, to varying degrees.

Humans are social animals, even those of us that /usually/ prefer to be private.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by Existenceblinks »

Animats wrote: post #97

Useful hints: - Put anything on Facebook you're willing to have on a public web page. Stop there. - Don't use Facebook's messaging or email. - On desktops and laptops, run Ghostery and Privacy Badger. This keeps Facebook's "like" buttons from tracking your browsing. - Don't run Facebook's phone app. It's way too intrusive; it gives your contact list to Facebook, just for starters. - Remember, sharing is spamming. Don…

Something more on the last point, it _was_ even worse in my situation. A friend(?) is a blogger who embedded ads on more than 50% of his posts. He's like a moving billboard, and I was forced to be an unpaid employee of whoever because I might end up buying something I don't need initially. He possibly post 30% of things that useful, so I can't filter this, all I can do is: 1) block him, 2) Unavoidably read 50% of crap.

I have removed my account for more than a year though, NVM now :/

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by cryptoz »

hellofunk wrote: post #107

> Facebooks creates false endorsements for products from you to your friends - and they never reveal this to you. Wow, really? That sounds to me just downright illegal.

Their legal defence would be that the word 'related' between the 'like' endorsement and the new 'content' creates a separation such that one wouldn't confuse the two. Hopefully a judge would then make it clear that the practice is intended to deceive, and is in fact illegal. That would be nice.

Any time you have ever 'liked' anything on Facebook is a time that Facebook interprets that you like the entire organization behind the piece. So if you like The Washington Post, a day later, or 8 years later, Facebook will put your name and photo by an article that you've never seen and say that you like The Washington Post with a big news article, picture, author, etc, that you've never seen.

It is certainly intended to make the user's friends think that this content is endorsed by you, to get your clicks and attention and ad dollars. It certainly should be illegal. They've been doing it for years though, so it seems that this kind of thing is the new normal.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by williamle8300 »

lyra_comms wrote: post #103
williamle8300 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's Lyra? I just see a website that looks like a social media marketing agency.

Please see www.hellolyra.com

It looks beautiful! It reminds me of Gingko (https://gingkoapp.com) and Pinboard.

How are you guys going to make money? I understand it's a non-profit but you're gonna still need money for servers and man-hours.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by deafcalculus »

Animats wrote: post #97

Useful hints: - Put anything on Facebook you're willing to have on a public web page. Stop there. - Don't use Facebook's messaging or email. - On desktops and laptops, run Ghostery and Privacy Badger. This keeps Facebook's "like" buttons from tracking your browsing. - Don't run Facebook's phone app. It's way too intrusive; it gives your contact list to Facebook, just for starters. - Remember, sharing is spamming. Don…

That's about what I did for a while. Then realized Twitter is a better fit for public posts. Now, I visit Facebook in an incognito window only when my mom tells me to check out something.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by w33ble »

milcron wrote: post #109
Animats wrote: post #97

Useful hints: - Put anything on Facebook you're willing to have on a public web page. Stop there. - Don't use Facebook's messaging or email. - On desktops and laptops, run Ghostery and Privacy Badger. This keeps Facebook's "like" buttons from tracking your browsing. - Don't run Facebook's phone app. It's way too intrusive; it gives your contact list to Facebook, just for starters. - Remember, sharing is spamming. Don…

Uninstall Facebook's phone app and check out mbasic.facebook.com. It doesn't require javascript to run. You can access Messenger and everything.

I use another browser on my phone for fb, and it's the only thing I use that browser for. This is amazing! I can finally read all of the messages I had without installing their app. Thank you so much for sharing that!!

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by joshstrange »

It won't be a popular opinion here but here it goes:

Well if it all goes to hell we will all be in the same handbasket. I'm simply not willing to cut people out of my life and miss out on things that are important to me because my data is mined and might be used against me. All these distributed platforms are a joke, no really they are technically cool but no one I care about is on them. Maybe if your entire social circle is technically sophisticated you can leave FB for something like diaspora (I don't know if this is the "new hotness" or if there is something better but I really don't care). My social graph is so far from able or willing to switch to something else it's not even funny. Like it or not there is a social stigma around NOT having a FB account. In fact I've thought on multiple occasions that someone is hiding something if they don't have one. You might hate me for that or hate the fact people think like that but good luck changing that mindset.

Look I've been on the other side of this, I paid for App.net (I think that's what that twitter clone was called) and tried multiple distributed platforms but they all fall short or require too many compromises. I tried to get friends to use Signal but no one really cares. iMessage/FB Messenger are just easier and everyone is on them. You want people to leave the "evil facebook" then make something better and easier to use. The best doesn't win, the easiest does.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by stevewillows »

A good number of people I know have left facebook for everything but the events. Its still the one central location where pretty much everybody is.

I would love nothing more than a standalone events app that not only had future events, but a, 'hey, I'm at %location%, anyone want to meet up?' that allowed for multiple degrees of social interaction --- e.g. just friends, anybody.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by lucasmullens »

Arizhel wrote: post #94
bargl wrote: post #27

As for me, Facebook creates an emotional connection unlike any other service out there. I get to see my friends kids grow up, comfort lost friends when they lose a parent, share with my family when something great has happened. It's absolutely amazing and there's nothing out there that comes close to its reach. If Facebook were suddenly gone tomorrow, I would feel devastated (so many memories of my kids, deceased fat…

>If Facebook were suddenly gone tomorrow, I would feel devastated (so many memories of my kids, deceased father, mom, all would be gone). WTF? How would they be "gone"? Facebook does not control your memories. So what else would you be losing if Facebook suddenly disappeared? Photos or videos? You don't say exactly, but I suspect this is the case. If so, then that's your own stupid fault for not keeping personal copi…

Not all the memories I value on Facebook are my own posts. Most people don't have copies of the photos they've been tagged in unless they manually downloaded them.
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