Fingers crossed for FUSE support soon, sorely needed IMO.
New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store
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#192a bit off-topic, are there cheaper ways to buy a windows 10 license than directly from microsoft for $200? (I'm not a student).
Win 10 Home is only $110 from Newegg or Amazon, and less if you get the "OEM" version. I forget the restrictions on the OEM version, but I think its intended for people building systems and reselling them -- I don't think anything stops you from using it on your own system, its just technically in violation of the licence.
OEM keys don't allow you to call MS for help as it's intended that you'd call your OEM for support.
I think they are supposed to be non transferable as well (can't transfer to a new PC)
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#193The primary reason I even looked at a Mac, way back in the MacOS 10.2 days, was because there is a Unix underneath the pretty interface. I bought my first Mac and never looked back. Stuff like this is making me look at Windows machines again.
i'm saying this now; POSIX will never be a first class citizen on windows - we might get shims in /proc and /dev, but windows will never run from POSIX. as long as Win32 exists (and lets face it, that's not going away for a long time), we're basically stuck with running a docker container with linux on it in windows. and that might be all you need. but for many *nix people, this is no where near enough.
Why would you want this, when the NT kernel is so much better architected than any extant Unix except for perhaps Solaris?
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
Really? On a discussion about a desktop OS? There are so many things going through my mind after your comment that I can't even start typing. Branch limit reached. I'm using Android and I have the same concerns about it. I gave my Lumia away because it doesn't have the apps that I need and, again, I had the same concerns. My time is limited so I have to pick my battles. Mobile is a lost cause. So I decide to give fee…
I didn't mean to offend. I'm just saying that if you think paying for an OS means you won't have data collection, then you're unlikely to find a smartphone that suits you. My point, exactly, is that Microsoft is just another tech company these days. They're not the Evil Empire. At best, they are one of Many Evil Fiefdoms. I understand that people are up in arms about data collection. And I understand that Microsoft t…
> I'm just saying that if you think paying for an OS means you won't have data collection, then you're unlikely to find a smartphone that suits you
> I understand that people are up in arms about data collection. And I understand that Microsoft tends to bungle any kind of public messaging about data collection. I'm just pointing out that every mobile OS, at least, collects tons of data.
Why do you keep talking about mobile when the subject of this thread and my original comment is about Windows Desktop OS? Should we talk about IoT too?
> My point, exactly, is that Microsoft is just another tech company these days. They're not the Evil Empire. At best, they are one of Many Evil Fiefdoms.
You're triggered because I mentioned the word "trust"? When data leaves your computer, it's all about trust. I don't trust anyone so I don't want my personal data leaking in the first place. Most of the time ("like in mobile") there's no viable, realistic, practical alternative.
If the money I paid for my Windows license is not enough they need to rethink their pricing. That's all I'm asking. Allow me to pay for my privacy. I would quietly leave your ecosystem if I could but congratulations, you have me locked in because of my job and certain network effects.
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#195Anybody manage to make their Bash/WSL actually look good? I've got it just running in, what, cmd I guess? I don't know. Anyway it's fuckugly. I had to just set all the fonts to white on a black background because otherwise the returns from npm installs and git status and stuff would be unreadable deep blue. Don't get me wrong, I love using it, but it doesn't beat the aesthetics of a terminal on a mac or a nicely conf…
I use zsh with Hyper ( https://hyper.is/ ) using "atom-dark" ( https://www.npmjs.com/package/hyperterm-atom-dark ) theme and it's quite decent sans the hideous text background colors: http://i.imgur.com/l4Oi2up.png
Woah it uses 250MB of space when installed, this really surprised me, even for a js app. I like the terminal though.
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
Huh? MacBooks are unlikely to disappear, companies love how slowly they depreciate (and are easily sellable), while it is by far the most optimized unix system out there. Pound for pound, a MacBook will last longer while doing more than a Windows or Linux laptop, despite Microsoft's and Linus's efforts to rectify this. Why would anyone pick Windows over Debian for development if their target is a Linux boxen in a ser…
> Pound for pound, a MacBook will last longer while doing more than a Windows or Linux laptop, despite Microsoft's and Linus's efforts to rectify this. The repairable/upgradable thinkpads are probably better in this regard
I like them better (and own multiple) but I do have to admit that MacBooks really do more with less. Still, I don't own one or plan to buy a MBP.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Isn't it a bit ironic, given your concern with 90s-era Microsoft practices that your comment is basically just FUD? Apologies for not taking the time to sit down and list all the ways MS has been bad for the FOSS world and the user. For someone who references the halloween documents and the hn userbase in general I think most of this should be mostly obvious and not need specific hand-holding. As for your accusatio…
> As for your accusation of fud, fud by defnition is about false or disinformation in combination with the appeal to fear. By what definition? FUD is literally just the words "Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt." Nothing about those words requires the thing being referred to to be false or disinformation . Less pedantically, propaganda/astroturfing doesn't need to be a lie or an exaggeration or anything of the sort, to ser…
I think my provided link was extremely clear about the latter. Did you read it?
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, do we really want to run an open garbage fire of an OS that is known as Windows 10 for a daily driver? I know I'd get murdery if I lost all my hot corners, multi-desktop, etc cause that is what makes me productive. Other people who don't like Gnome 3 take pleasure in using i3 or AwesomeWM, which both are major steps up over Win10's UI. At this point, the Windows platform is a rotting cesspool, the devs focused…
What isn't a rotting cesspool in your opinion? iOS or Android?
Debian/Arch are both fairly lively, if you want something battle hardend you'll use SLES like Walmart, Kroger, Fred Meyers, Vons, uses. The desktop is in stasis though, and iOS as a platform is unlikely to grow massively over the next few years.
Android is frankly another rotting cesspool of Google's making. Where Microsoft & Apple are able to provide years of updates to every model of phone their software runs on (with MS literally working with the same vendors as Google), Google has successfully ensured that outside of Nexus devices, updates occur rarely if ever.
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#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
I didn't mean to offend. I'm just saying that if you think paying for an OS means you won't have data collection, then you're unlikely to find a smartphone that suits you. My point, exactly, is that Microsoft is just another tech company these days. They're not the Evil Empire. At best, they are one of Many Evil Fiefdoms. I understand that people are up in arms about data collection. And I understand that Microsoft t…
> I'm just saying that if you think paying for an OS means you won't have data collection, then you're unlikely to find a smartphone that suits you > I understand that people are up in arms about data collection. And I understand that Microsoft tends to bungle any kind of public messaging about data collection. I'm just pointing out that every mobile OS, at least, collects tons of data. Why do you keep talking about…
Wow, sorry. No, no, I'm not triggered at all. I was only trying to illustrate the fact that there are times when we have no choice but to use an OS that uses telemetry.
I'll happily concede this thread and apologize for having brought it up. I really wasn't trying to start a fight. I was trying to give what I thought was an analogous example.