I really hope they fix GNOME on VirtualBox before the convergence. Currently, it will not run at all with 3D Acceleration. It is why I have been using Unity, seeing as it works with 3D Acceleration flawlessly on VirtualBox.
Ubuntu 17.04 review
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Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review
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Please to be defining 'failed'.
Not the OP but I think hacksonx might be referring to the big squares UI. They designed an interface that one could use with their feet... elbows.... etc... And it had that Pinterest/Masonry appeal to it. I think they realized quickly that that's not how desktop users interacted with their computer. Was it a failure? I can't say I've met anyone that is trying to re-enable that interface on any other device. I do know…
My point was that MS hasn't suffered massive failure despite this ludicrous attempt at promulgating a feet/elbows interface on devices with actual keyboards and mouses.
Yes, lots of people (especially relatively technically aware people that I know) have resisted the upgrade to MS Windows 8 / 10 -- but they're still running Microsoft Windows.
Compare and contrast the Canonical Unity experiment.
Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please to be defining 'failed'.
Not the OP but I think hacksonx might be referring to the big squares UI. They designed an interface that one could use with their feet... elbows.... etc... And it had that Pinterest/Masonry appeal to it. I think they realized quickly that that's not how desktop users interacted with their computer. Was it a failure? I can't say I've met anyone that is trying to re-enable that interface on any other device. I do know…
That said, i think perhaps Windows 8 is the first (or second if one consider the Phone 6.5 to 7 transition) time Microsoft had ignored the muscle memory aspect that had kept their products up top for so long.
Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review
#64I predict a resurgence of interest in KDE. ... despite the numerous Plasma crashes lately.
I used KDE until they released that godawful Plasma desktop. Don't get me wrong, it looks absolutely BEAUTIFUL, but it crashes constantly, and it is a crapshoot on whether or not it will actually even BOOT within a virtual machine.
Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review
#65I never understood why Canonical's attempts to be "brave" (as Apple would call it) result in Canonical pulling out, while attempts by other companies like Apple don't. For example, Canonical made a very brave decision to switch to Unity, and now they're having to move away from Unity, which hints that there were enough users against it, and they pushed Canonical into this position (along with Canonical trying to allo…
I would think it would be due to the sheer power differences of each organization. While I'm sure Canonical isn't strapped for cash, it's clear Apple is far larger of a company. The fact that Apple has built its user following, along with the huge number of nearly religious followers, against Ubuntu's (or Linux's, really) much smaller audience gives concessions to Apple to make moves such as this. If I had hundreds o…
That's too easy. Linux also has a contingent of nearly religious free software fanatics. Moreover, Apple is now strongly represented in niches that Linux was traditionally strong in, such as academia and developers.
Let's not forget that Apple was in dire straits in 1997 and was only a tiny fraction of its current worth. It has only been the behemoth it is now since 2010 or so. The difference with Apple and Canonical is that when Apple introduced products they were often miles ahead of the rest, while Canonical is mostly catching up.
OS X provided a UNIX with a modern display server and good usability in 2001. The first version of Ubuntu was released three years later and had a lot of shortcomings that were only solved later or just now (such as a modern display server).
Apple defined the modern smartphone in 2007. The first preview of Ubuntu Phone was released six years later.
Apple is now extremely large, but 2001 Apple and even 2007 Apple was not.
I'd feel much more comfortable making "deal with it" decisions affecting my users than if I were running a much smaller operation.
Except that Apple canceled unsuccessful products as well. Ping, iTools, .Mac, MobileMe, Aperture, Xserve.
Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review
#66I never understood why Canonical's attempts to be "brave" (as Apple would call it) result in Canonical pulling out, while attempts by other companies like Apple don't. For example, Canonical made a very brave decision to switch to Unity, and now they're having to move away from Unity, which hints that there were enough users against it, and they pushed Canonical into this position (along with Canonical trying to allo…
Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review
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Marketing.
I'm not sure it's that simple. For example, the people I knew who hated the removal of skeuomorphism didn't get over it when they watched WWDC, or some TV commercial. They just kept using their devices, and waited a long time before upgrading. But they then upgraded and shut up, and not because they saw a commercial.
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Yes - it's very annoying. There seems to some strange interaction with Oracle Java that it just can't handle. The KDE bug reporting process is completely broken. You need an account on their system just to report a problem. I suspect that a large number of problems are never reported because the process of documenting them is just too difficult for most users. There is no automated crash reporting at all. As far as I…
It's nothing new: Cascade of Attention-Deficit Teenagers. Or if you want to see a funny image, click this link: https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html If you're easily offended, google instead for "Cascade of Attention-Deficit Teenagers".
I prefer to think of it as "aggressive refactoring" - which is not necessarily bad.
I think the process of software maintenance (in the context of KDE development) could be much improved if their reporting process had less friction and collected more relevant information so that the turnaround would be faster.
Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
> which hints that there were enough users against it I'm pretty sure those users are a vocal minority. Personally I loved Unity. The only thing I disliked about Unity and Ubuntu's UI in general is the lack of configuration options, having to install extra buggy configuration managers to do really basic stuff, like turning Caps Lock into Ctrl. But that's a problem with the whole Gnome ecosystem and not Unity. And Uni…
Going back to why Canonical dropped it, I'm pretty sure that's because they are giving up on the Linux desktop in general. Indeed, Canonical had the same realization as Red Hat ~2000-2003: there is no money in the Linux desktop, there is a lot of money in enterprise services and support. Since Canonical has to make a profit, it is smart of them to drop unprofitable projects such as the phone.
Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review
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Going back to why Canonical dropped it, I'm pretty sure that's because they are giving up on the Linux desktop in general. Indeed, Canonical had the same realization as Red Hat ~2000-2003: there is no money in the Linux desktop, there is a lot of money in enterprise services and support. Since Canonical has to make a profit, it is smart of them to drop unprofitable projects such as the phone.
And now Ubuntu has passed Red Hat in the # of servers metric because devs like me choose their Linux server OS based on familiarity with the Ubuntu desktop OS.
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