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Ubuntu 17.04 review

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Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review

#21

I predict a resurgence of interest in KDE. ... despite the numerous Plasma crashes lately.

I used KDE until they released that godawful Plasma desktop.

Don't get me wrong, it looks absolutely BEAUTIFUL, but it crashes constantly, and it is a crapshoot on whether or not it will actually even BOOT within a virtual machine.

Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review

#22
post #2

If you want to get a head start on the future of Ubuntu, check out Ubuntu GNOME[1]. It's an official distribution of Ubuntu and where it's heading. [1]: https://ubuntugnome.org/

Isn't that old gnome 2?

No. Ubuntu GNOME 17.04 runs Gnome3.24. Ubuntu MATE uses Mate which forked from Gnome2 after the introduction of Gnome3.

Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review

#23
post #2

If you want to get a head start on the future of Ubuntu, check out Ubuntu GNOME[1]. It's an official distribution of Ubuntu and where it's heading. [1]: https://ubuntugnome.org/

Isn't that old gnome 2?

youre thinking of Ubuntu MATE, which is supposed to be a continuation of old GNOME 2. Ubuntu GNOME is using GNOME 3.

Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review

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what are all those shortcuts ? AFAIK, you can customize gnome easily.

Alt-` cycles through the windows within one application, such as terminal or Chrome. Similar to what can be done on the Mac. I use it & hope Gnome can do the same.

This was one of the most liked features in Unity for me, and I made sure it existed in GNOME before I made the switch a couple of years ago.

Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review

#25

I never understood why Canonical's attempts to be "brave" (as Apple would call it) result in Canonical pulling out, while attempts by other companies like Apple don't. For example, Canonical made a very brave decision to switch to Unity, and now they're having to move away from Unity, which hints that there were enough users against it, and they pushed Canonical into this position (along with Canonical trying to allo…

Marketing.

Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review

#27

I never understood why Canonical's attempts to be "brave" (as Apple would call it) result in Canonical pulling out, while attempts by other companies like Apple don't. For example, Canonical made a very brave decision to switch to Unity, and now they're having to move away from Unity, which hints that there were enough users against it, and they pushed Canonical into this position (along with Canonical trying to allo…

Even Microsoft can't afford bravery and have to revert almost every time.

Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review

#28

I predict a resurgence of interest in KDE. ... despite the numerous Plasma crashes lately.

I used KDE until they released that godawful Plasma desktop. Don't get me wrong, it looks absolutely BEAUTIFUL, but it crashes constantly, and it is a crapshoot on whether or not it will actually even BOOT within a virtual machine.

Yes - it's very annoying. There seems to some strange interaction with Oracle Java that it just can't handle.

The KDE bug reporting process is completely broken.

You need an account on their system just to report a problem. I suspect that a large number of problems are never reported because the process of documenting them is just too difficult for most users. There is no automated crash reporting at all.

As far as I can tell the bugs that are reported go into a black hole and not addressed for years, if ever.

Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review

#29

I never understood why Canonical's attempts to be "brave" (as Apple would call it) result in Canonical pulling out, while attempts by other companies like Apple don't. For example, Canonical made a very brave decision to switch to Unity, and now they're having to move away from Unity, which hints that there were enough users against it, and they pushed Canonical into this position (along with Canonical trying to allo…

Marketing.

I'm not sure it's that simple. For example, the people I knew who hated the removal of skeuomorphism didn't get over it when they watched WWDC, or some TV commercial. They just kept using their devices, and waited a long time before upgrading. But they then upgraded and shut up, and not because they saw a commercial.

Re: Ubuntu 17.04 review

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

what are all those shortcuts ? AFAIK, you can customize gnome easily.

Alt-` cycles through the windows within one application, such as terminal or Chrome. Similar to what can be done on the Mac. I use it & hope Gnome can do the same.

I use this every day in GNOME.
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